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Re:Elon Musk Makes $82B Gambit to Silence Tesla Critics by nickik on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @10:44AM (#17716362)
I think they story that they need a 'massive infusion of cash' is simply false. I have no idea why anybody would believe that. It is not in accordance with their own guidance or what we know from their production numbers and cashflow numbers.
Re:Elon Musk Makes $82B Gambit to Silence Tesla Critics by vannevar on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @12:58PM (#17717466)
I have no idea why anybody would believe that.

Well, a few reasons are listed in articles like this: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-tesla-burns-cash/

It's clearly not false to state that the company will need a lot of money to scale going forward, compared to the money needed in the past. The only question is whether that money comes from revenue, debt, or investment. The revenue projections don't come close to covering it in the short term, and the company has already taken on quite a bit of debt with respect to its assets, making it unclear whether it could get loans for the amount of cash needed to scale up to "real car company"-sized manufacturing capacity.

Maybe they don't need money, and Musk is just taking advantage of undervaluation to make a great deal. But it's certainly not crazy to think that they do need money, and if so, taking the company private may be the only viable option.

Re:Elon Musk Makes $82B Gambit to Silence Tesla Critics by toomuchtodo on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @01:10PM (#17717554)
> Tesla Going Private Would Demolish Doubters in Default Swaps

> You can’t really bet against bonds that could soon no longer exist.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-08-08/elon-musk...

TL;DR Tesla going private at $420/share wipes out the bond debt. Their just-hired Chief Accounting Officer oversaw Seagate going private in 2000.

https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/95gv0l/dave_mo...

Re:Elon Musk Makes $82B Gambit to Silence Tesla Critics by dnomad on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @01:14PM (#17717586)
> Maybe they don't need money, and Musk is just taking advantage of undervaluation to make a great deal. But it's certainly not crazy to think that they do need money, and if so, taking the company private may be the only viable option.

This doesn't make any sense. Companies don't go private because they need money unless it's a private buy-out. There is no indication at all that TSLA would have any trouble accessing the debt markets. In fact what we see is TSLA turning away investors like the Saudis who are eager to increase their exposure to the firm. If TSLA was so desperate for money why would they be turning away some of the biggest investors in the world?

Re:Elon Musk Makes $82B Gambit to Silence Tesla Critics by anthonybsd on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @01:44PM (#17717833)
> There is no indication at all that TSLA would have any trouble accessing the debt markets.

Actually there are a lot of indications that junk bond markets have little appetite for Tesla offerings:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-28/tesla-bon...

https://www.thestreet.com/investing/tesla-junk-bonds-sending...

Re:Elon Musk Makes $82B Gambit to Silence Tesla Critics by jandrese on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @10:57AM (#17716468)
Basically Musk is tired of short sellers writing story after story in the financial rags about how Tesla is on the verge of total collapse any day now. He figures if he goes private they'll be forced to pick a new target (or just write even more articles about Uber).
Re:Elon Musk Makes $82B Gambit to Silence Tesla Critics by kadenshep on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @12:30PM (#17717255)
Seems like a really fragile attitude to take when you're the head of a company.
Re:Elon Musk Makes $82B Gambit to Silence Tesla Critics by SeanAppleby on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @01:05PM (#17717524)
Public opinion is swayed by the large volume of articles like these, and public opinion is important when you're running a high end, large scale b2c enterprise while making an emotional appeal that buying your product is something they should feel good about for their contribution to pushing the world in a better direction.
Re:Elon Musk Makes $82B Gambit to Silence Tesla Critics by downrightmike on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @02:06PM (#17718021)
That, or they will make their quotas this year and this is the best way to keep the money in tesla/musk's control.
Re:Elon Musk Makes $82B Gambit to Silence Tesla Critics by m1nes on Thursday August 09, 2018 @03:37AM (#17722274)
> I have no idea why anybody would believe that

Just look at the last 10Q and the rising debt.