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Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by stenl on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @11:01PM (#17712901)
Solution: free day care. It’s a win for taxpayers if those parents go to work and pay taxes instead of staying home with the kids. Also a win for women’s liberation.
Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by Double_a_92 on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @04:39AM (#17714116)
How is "sacrificing" yourself for capitalism more liberating than taking care of your kids and family?
Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by doombolt on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @05:22AM (#17714263)
Because you can now have your own means of survival as opposed to depending on someone other (such as "state" or "husband") and possibly being booted from time to time from that dependence together with children.
Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by aicantar on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @05:33AM (#17714313)
Women's liberation is about choice, not about "acting like men".

Not everyone wants to have kids and family. Some will work, some will stay at home. Same goes for men btw.

Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by isostatic on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @07:15AM (#17714876)
In the UK it's very hard to have one parent stay at home - to pay the mortgage you usually need two full time to cover the mortgage.

Child care is subsidised heavily by other taxpayers, but only government childcare - get a grandparent round and there's no tax break. The tax system works hard to discriminate against single parent families too (two people with two kids on total £80k pay a marginal tax of 32%. One person on £55k pays marginal 60%)

Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by lambdaphagy on Tuesday August 07, 2018 @11:54PM (#17713091)
There is a strongly negative relationship between women's education and fertility. Is this, in the long run, also good for the taxpayers?
Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by kartan on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @01:46AM (#17713480)
> There is a strongly negative relationship between women's education and fertility.

Actually, it is a correlation between educated women having educated partners that know how to use contraceptive methods. Educate all men and women's education will be less relevant. Or stop any education of men, contraceptive methods will decline and fertility grow.

> Is this, in the long run, also good for the taxpayers?

It all depends. Is it good for "taxpayers" that humanity does not go extinct? Is taxes the only moral compass for our society?

Each time someone mentions a social advance for our society there is a big reaction against it because "costs money". Yes, it costs money, and it is money well spend in the citizens well being.

Is the legal system, schools, the police force, firefighters, etc good for taxpayers? Yes.

Does it costs money? Yes.

And that is why there is taxes. To pay for our needs.

Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by muricula on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @12:21AM (#17713189)
Why should taxpayers get a say in an individual’s choice to pursue an education or fertility? That’s an incredibly personal decision.
Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by barry-cotter on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @01:42AM (#17713464)
Well if they're not paying for the daycare they don't. If they are they are then they do.If you want someone else's money then you're going to get it on their terms or not at all.
Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by doombolt on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @05:26AM (#17714278)
This is downpayment for the future taxes by their children. Seems fair to me. But, for some reason, not for you?
Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by PurpleBoxDragon on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @03:59PM (#17718929)
Does going to daycare over have a stay at home parent lead to an increase in the money made? And if we were considering just the number of children and how having more children will lead to more tax payers, then cutting funding for education in ways that result in more children being had is even better because you save money now and have more tax payers later.

If you begin to optimize social and political decisions on the basis of having more tax payers, you'll get weird results. For a second example, cutting reproductive education funding in schools will lead to more tax payers (though arguably tax payers who pay less, so then the question becomes are you optimizing for tax payers or for future taxable income in total).

Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by doombolt on Thursday August 09, 2018 @03:35AM (#17722260)
> cutting funding for education in ways that result in more children being had

Do you have a citation for this? One with "cutting funding" in it and not the generic comparison between Somalia and Germany.

Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by PurpleBoxDragon on Thursday August 09, 2018 @09:40AM (#17724053)
There is a well established correlation between education in girls increasing and child birth rates decreasing. Unless you think that funding could be cut without decreasing education rates, in which case shouldn't we cut funding?
Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by doombolt on Thursday August 09, 2018 @09:54AM (#17724164)
But do you have correlation between education availability to girls decreasing and child birth rates increasing?

Your primary fallacy here is that you think you can always "mince the meat back". You usually can't. It doesn't work that way.

Re:Tokyo medical school admits changing results to exclude w... by aicantar on Wednesday August 08, 2018 @02:23AM (#17713592)
Yup. Let's forbid education for women. It'll definitely result in a better society for everyone.

Quality is more important than quantity. More educated people will produce better product and improve everyone's lives. Not saying that denying 50% of population a chance to live their lives as they want is plainly wrong and immoral.