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Re:3M Knew About the Dangers of PFOA and PFOS Decades Ago, I... by thatjsguy on Friday August 03, 2018 @11:51AM (#17680838)
“Food and drink companies knew all along that sugar was making you obese and diabetic.”
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Re:3M Knew About the Dangers of PFOA and PFOS Decades Ago, I... by ncw33 on Friday August 03, 2018 @11:54AM (#17680877)
The difference is that most/all sugars are not inherently harmful, and we believe that they can be consumed safely at reasonable doses. A bit of glucose or fructose won't kill you, and is a (small) natural component of your diet. So banning sugar would be rather hard, compared to complex toxic chemicals which can't be processed by our bodies, decay slowly, and where we really have fairly limited reason to put in products.
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Re:3M Knew About the Dangers of PFOA and PFOS Decades Ago, I... by pygy_ on Friday August 03, 2018 @12:04PM (#17680960)
The problem is at least twofold:

- some foodstuff is optimized for addictiveness, with far too much sugar, starting at the craddle.

- nutrition science has been purposefully sent in the wrong direction for decades.

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Re:3M Knew About the Dangers of PFOA and PFOS Decades Ago, I... by tarwater11 on Friday August 03, 2018 @12:04PM (#17680961)
Fat (edit: typically) causes type 2 diabetes, not sugar.
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Re:3M Knew About the Dangers of PFOA and PFOS Decades Ago, I... by Verdex_3 on Friday August 03, 2018 @12:18PM (#17681092)
Is this what your meant to write?

I've worked on diabetes medical devices for about 8 years, did some research on diabetes to augment my ability to work on said diabetes medical devices, and personally know several people with type 1 diabetes and as well type 2 diabetes.

Did you mean instead to write: Sugar causes type 2 diabetes, not fat?

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Re:3M Knew About the Dangers of PFOA and PFOS Decades Ago, I... by tarwater11 on Friday August 03, 2018 @12:51PM (#17681411)
https://nutritionfacts.org/2016/11/17/fat-is-the-cause-of-ty...

I suppose high sugar consumption could cause it, but it doesn't look like that is the typical mechanism.

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Re:3M Knew About the Dangers of PFOA and PFOS Decades Ago, I... by mrfredward on Friday August 03, 2018 @01:26PM (#17681701)
Michael Greger, the author of that post, owns the website nutritionfacts.org. He appears to be taking the celebrity doctor career route, since his bio boasts about the lectures he gives and appearing on the Dr. Oz show.

Shows us something peer reviewed.

Edit: I haven't found anything to definitively say Greger is a quack, but given that searching his name brings up mainly alternative medicine type sites, I remain suspicious.

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Re:3M Knew About the Dangers of PFOA and PFOS Decades Ago, I... by newnewpdro on Friday August 03, 2018 @12:18PM (#17681094)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifestyle_causes_of_diabetes_m...
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Re:3M Knew About the Dangers of PFOA and PFOS Decades Ago, I... by oxide on Friday August 03, 2018 @12:09PM (#17680998)
I would like to read more about this if you wouldn't mind sourcing your facts.
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Re:3M Knew About the Dangers of PFOA and PFOS Decades Ago, I... by driverdan on Friday August 03, 2018 @12:10PM (#17681016)
I believe you mean obesity, not dietary fat.
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