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Re:Tesla Second Quarter 2018 Update by rconti on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @06:17PM (#17667581)
It definitely is impressive, and they deserve great credit for their advancements-- I never liked the Prius but it was beyond obvious that every car in the future HAD to have a way of capturing deceleration energy rather than just bleeding it off as crude waste heat -- how silly and archaic that seems now.

But I'm not quite clear on your comment-- At first I thought it was to be read that the Toyota accomplishment was more impressive than Tesla's. But then I realized maybe you meant it to be less impressive, because the scale is far less. So I assumed you meant maybe Tesla's accomplishment was the more impressive one. But then you said Toyota's is EVEN MORE impressive when you consider that it's just a single model (which is a good point).

Re:Tesla Second Quarter 2018 Update by freehunter on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @07:05PM (#17667867)
I was pretty impressed that my entirely gasoline-powered BMW 3-series apparently will use the braking energy to recharge the battery and disconnect the alternator, saving some small amount of MPG. So the technology is trickling into gasoline-powered cars as well, to save small amounts of fuel.

I've driven a stick-shift for a while in the past and always wondered if there was a way to capture the engine power when you downshift for engine braking coming up to a red light. Not sure how it would work though.

Re:Tesla Second Quarter 2018 Update by sangnoir on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @10:59PM (#17668958)
> I've driven a stick-shift for a while in the past and always wondered if there was a way to capture the engine power when you downshift for engine braking coming up to a red light. Not sure how it would work though.

Flywheels could work, but they are heavy, and have a potentially unsafe failure mode (dense material disintegrating at high RPM).

Re:Tesla Second Quarter 2018 Update by avar on Thursday August 02, 2018 @03:10AM (#17669719)
You could integrate an alternator with the gearbox in some way, and only connect it if your foot is off the pedal, or if you're about to run out of electricity.
Re:Tesla Second Quarter 2018 Update by Shivetya on Thursday August 02, 2018 @05:13AM (#17670187)
my 2012 Z4 had limited recapture as well, it was a manual transmission with start/stop. It was there to mostly keep the battery up so you could start/stop. There was zero indication of it doing anything which I really found as a missed opportunity. You can really alter people's driving behavior if they see they are being "rewarded".
Re:Tesla Second Quarter 2018 Update by freehunter on Thursday August 02, 2018 @10:33AM (#17671689)
On my 2016 3 series there's an MPG bar below the speedo, and if you're in Comfort mode and coasting it will light up the battery in blue. If you're in Eco mode and braking it will flip the bar to say "charge". So I guess on newer models they took your advice and made it a bit more visible, and it definitely does impact my driving behavior because I want to see it light up blue :)