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Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by panarky on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @03:58PM (#17656540)
Ummm ... maybe those sources weren't part of the disinformation campaign?

Or are you trying to argue that evidence of possible Russian influence over one candidate, by its very existence, is evidence that they don't have influence over that candidate?

Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by equalunique on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @04:02PM (#17656576)
>Or are you trying to argue that evidence of possible Russian influence over one candidate, by its very existence, is evidence that they don't have influence over that candidate?

No. It's possible evidence - some of it is verifiable while other parts are simply allegations.

Can you prove that the part in the dossier about the hotel orgy was not a disinformation campaign used on western intelligence?

Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by MaysonL on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @05:42PM (#17657482)
Has any part of the dossier been proven false? Not so far as I know. Has any part of the dossier been proven true? Yes.
Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by gfodor on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @08:18PM (#17658533)
^^ Comments like this continue to be stunning in how easily someone can toss out basic critical reasoning like knowing where the burden of proof lies when it comes to politics.
Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by nasredin on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @09:06PM (#17658811)
My mental framework to study this issue is equally simple, just a single question:

Is President Trump the type of dude that would be into golden showers?

Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by equalunique on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @08:43PM (#17658672)
If I claim MaysonL wore a blue shirt when this comment was made on HN, odds are that nobody can prove my claim is 100% false, and yet part of my claim is proven true, because here you are, and therefore all must believe me.

This is your logic.

Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by 18pfsmt on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @06:18PM (#17657773)
I'm pretty sure the Steele dossier was not made public until Jan. 10, 2017 (i.e. after the election):

https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-t...

Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by evunveot on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @12:06AM (#17659573)
Steele was shopping it around to media outlets extensively before the election, and Mother Jones reported on it on October 31, 2016:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gav...

Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by SimbaOnSteroids on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @06:52PM (#17658024)
Furthermore it was raw intelligence not meant for public consumption.
Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by programmarchy on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @09:52PM (#17659014)
But wasn’t the Steele dossier used to get a FISA warrant to spy on the campaign, after the original request was denied?

Politicizing the intelligence apparatus would be highly disturbing, even moreso than when the Obama administration apparently used the IRS to target political opponents [1] like the tea party.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy

Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by equalunique on Wednesday August 01, 2018 @12:28AM (#17659675)
Upvoted. I hope your comment does not get flagged like mine have been.