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Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by untog on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @03:15PM (#17656134)
I'm not sure that's quite right. They wanted mania, and used tactics that would contribute towards a Clinton loss, even if the chances of it were remote. Hence, they heavily pushed Bernie Sanders and the Green Party, and once he became the Republican candidate, Trump. As far as I'm aware there hasn't been any Russian-created content found that supported Clinton, despite the fact that it would have helped contribute to the overall mania.
Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by dragonwriter on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @05:45PM (#17657504)
> They wanted mania, and used tactics that would contribute towards a Clinton loss, even if the chances of it were remote.

It's at least plausible that, at least originally, defeating Clinton wasn't a goal, weakening and dividing the US as a whole and the expected next President’s public and Congressional support might have been the whole goal. Actually causing her defeat may be a happy accident from the Russian POV (or a bit of a unhappy one that required escalating efforts to promote disunity, because in the short-term, even if the administration produced was not particularly popular, there was the risk of accidental strength from executive-legislative partisan alignment.)

Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by equalunique on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @03:38PM (#17656362)
>As far as I'm aware there hasn't been any Russian-created content found that supported Clinton.

Well, there is the Steele dossier, which FusionGPS was paid twice for - once by a Republican PAC, then second by Clinton's Perkins & Coie - before providing it to the FBI directly. You could say that it's MI5/MI6 (once a <three letter agency> operative, always a <three letter agency> operative, amirite?) intel, but the unverified parts of it are from Russian sources.

Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by steve_musk on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @03:43PM (#17656397)
This didn’t become public until after Trump was in office though.
Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by equalunique on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @03:59PM (#17656547)
It was key factor in the previous administration's ability to get a surveillance warrant on Trump's campaign.
Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by steve_musk on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @04:52PM (#17657003)
No it was not. It was part of the evidence presented to the FISA judge by the FBI to obtain a warrant to monitor Carter Pages communications AFTER he left the campaign, and the FBI had been interested in Page before the Trump campaign even existed.[1]

The investigation into Trump's campaign and its Russian contacts was NOT started by the dossier. The FBI was not given the dossier until December of 2016. By this time there was no campaign anymore since Trump was president-elect. In fact the investigation had already started months prior when Papadopolous made suspicious comments to a diplomat about the campaign's knowledge of information related to Hillary's emails. [2]

[1] https://www.wired.com/story/why-trump-wont-stop-talking-abou... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Russia_dossier

Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by pwned1 on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @05:37PM (#17657443)
The FISA warrant application in October 2016 identifies Steele/Fusion GPS as the source of the allegations against Page.

https://www.scribd.com/document/384413862/Carter-Page-Fisa

Re:Removing Bad Actors on Facebook by steve_musk on Tuesday July 31, 2018 @06:56PM (#17658048)
Ah, it seems McCain gave the dossier he received to the FBI in December but the "FBI confidential human source" had already provided the information to them.

But October 2016 is still after Page left the Trump campaign, and after the Russian investigation had started.