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Re:Farewell, Google Maps by C7H8N4O2 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @06:27PM (#17570887)
> In the case of maps, there weren't many great alternatives for a long time, due to Google sucking all the oxygen/profit potential out of the field with their excellent free offerings.

There was a related discussion[0] on HN a few weeks ago that I found enlightening. Commentator ucaetano's phrasing of the strategy was "create a desert of profitability around you". The discussion of moats vs deserts found here [1] is also useful.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17047348 "Laws of Tech Economics: Commoditize Your Complement"

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17048492

Re:Farewell, Google Maps by komali2 on Thursday July 19, 2018 @07:45PM (#17571343)
Almost every conversation I've had with someone working at a startup in this city inevitably turns to the "so, are you worried Google will simply start offering your service for free?"

I remember like 3 or 4 years ago having this conversation at a hackathon with a bunch of "Machine Learning" / "Sentiment Analysis" APIs present... right as google started offering both for free on their cloud platform.

Re:Farewell, Google Maps by oblio on Friday July 20, 2018 @05:56AM (#17573710)
This is funny:

Paul Graham, September 2001:

> "And if you manage to write something that takes off, you may find that you were merely doing market research for Microsoft.”

Google is today's Microsoft :)

Re:Farewell, Google Maps by ucaetano on Thursday July 19, 2018 @08:55PM (#17571653)
Which most likely meant the startup was a feature or a product, not a company with a viable business model.
Re:Farewell, Google Maps by hueving on Friday July 20, 2018 @12:33AM (#17572474)
Gmail is free. Does that mean email service is not a product? Why does fastmail exist?
Re:Farewell, Google Maps by Tom4hawk on Friday July 20, 2018 @02:28AM (#17572926)
Because there are people (like me) who value their privacy/data.
Re:Farewell, Google Maps by ucaetano on Friday July 20, 2018 @02:19PM (#17577466)
It is free for consumers, not for organizations. Gmail for consumers doesn't have a business model by itself, but it fits into Google's larger business model.
Re:Farewell, Google Maps by Scarblac on Friday July 20, 2018 @05:19AM (#17573560)
If it wasn't a viable business model, Google wouldn't move into the space. It's just that they first use their infinite pocket money to kill off all the competition, then switch to making money.
Re:Farewell, Google Maps by ucaetano on Friday July 20, 2018 @02:19PM (#17577457)
> If it wasn't a viable business model, Google wouldn't move into the space.

Wrong, maybe that "space" (feature or product) goes well with Google's business model, but wouldn't support a viable business mode by itself.

Re:Farewell, Google Maps by imron on Thursday July 19, 2018 @09:13PM (#17571734)
Being bought/aquihired by Google/others seems to be a business model several companies aim for.
Re:Farewell, Google Maps by ucaetano on Friday July 20, 2018 @02:20PM (#17577468)
That's not a business model for the company. But it is for the investors.
Re:Farewell, Google Maps by sullyj3 on Friday July 20, 2018 @09:40AM (#17574872)
A lot of the time they have enough in house talent to not need to
Re:Farewell, Google Maps by imron on Friday July 20, 2018 @09:56AM (#17574999)
That doesn't stop other companies seeing it as a viable business model.
Re:Farewell, Google Maps by ucaetano on Thursday July 19, 2018 @07:09PM (#17571151)
Ha, that was me! Thanks for the bump!