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Re:European Commission fines Google €4.34B in Android antitr... by ocdtrekkie on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @04:04PM (#17561641)
This isn't a realistic scenario. If Google "stopped licensing Android", most OEMs would fork it at least initiating. Additionally, if Google were to move solely into the Pixel space, it would fail, overtaken by Samsung and other OEMs which know how to run a hardware business. Apple will continue to be a niche player because they like it that way, they aren't a threat and never have been. And without the big Android bully in the picture, it's likely new Linux-based OSes would find a place to flourish. Microsoft would probably reenter the mobile arena as well. You are forgetting there are dozens of manufacturers who all have large mobile phone businesses, and they aren't going to disappear because Google is forced to comply with the law.

There is no scenario where Apple becomes a big scary monopoly that wins everything. That's what Google is, and that's why they're being fined.

Re:European Commission fines Google €4.34B in Android antitr... by cageface on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @04:09PM (#17561684)
Who is going to use Android with no app store and a bunch of crappy bundled apps? The answer is nobody. Look how far Amazon has been able to push that with all their engineering and marketing muscle.

Apple is a niche player only because they clung to their margins like a bag of heroin and let cheap Android phones eat their lunch. If it weren't for Android they would have zero serious competition.

I find myself in the very odd position today of having for the first time some sympathy with the Brexiters.

Re:European Commission fines Google €4.34B in Android antitr... by pjmlp on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @04:12PM (#17561708)
The same people that were already using J2ME and Symbian apps before iPhone became a thing.

Even Google used to have maps versions that targeted those platforms, before they went with Android.

Re:European Commission fines Google €4.34B in Android antitr... by cageface on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @04:15PM (#17561732)
I.E. nobody that can afford even the cheapest iPhone. The world has changed since J2ME mattered.
Re:European Commission fines Google €4.34B in Android antitr... by bitmapbrother on Wednesday July 18, 2018 @04:31PM (#17561823)
>If Google "stopped licensing Android", most OEMs would fork it at least initiating.

Every OEM release of Android is forked so your statement doesn't make sense.

>Additionally, if Google were to move solely into the Pixel space, it would fail, overtaken by Samsung and other OEMs which know how to run a hardware business.

Google doesn't need to confine their OS to just Pixel devices. They can also work with any OEM that wants to ship the Google version of Android and GMS - (Nokia, Motorola, etc). Given a choice, consumers would easily choose a phone running Android with GMS over any other non iOS device. Furthermore, Google could also close source Android and not continue to give Samsung a free OS to cake their services on. The decline of Samsung as they scramble to make Tizen their only smartphone OS would be entertaining to watch.

>And without the big Android bully in the picture, it's likely new Linux-based OSes would find a place to flourish.

Yes, just like all of those desktop Linux distributions have flourished.

>You are forgetting there are dozens of manufacturers who all have large mobile phone businesses

You mean the same ones that can't write operating systems or secure their devices?