Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by viach on Saturday July 14, 2018 @04:26AM
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I think their parents got mortgages which they were paying off all their factory drone lives, not bought these houses.
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Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by endymi0n on Saturday July 14, 2018 @04:35AM
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In most cities in western / northern Europe, it's completely impossible by now to get a mortgage for a home remotely large enough for a family, even with two factory drone salaries and even if you pay all of your life.
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by olavgg on Saturday July 14, 2018 @04:44AM
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Not really, the problem is that the average standard in a home is quite high and makes the average housing very expensive.
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by pcrh on Saturday July 14, 2018 @05:17AM
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The major expense in home purchase is the purchase of the land, not construction. So rising construction standards are not the prime drivers behind current high prices.
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by oblio on Saturday July 14, 2018 @05:21AM
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What is “the average standard”?
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by viach on Saturday July 14, 2018 @04:50AM
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Noticed how you added "large enough" restriction? Standards are changing, today it is not enough to buy just a house, it should be "large enough".
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by smcl on Saturday July 14, 2018 @05:05AM
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Everyone who has ever bought a house or flat has an expectation that it will be large enough for their needs - whether that is a single person, a couple or a family with two kids. This is not a new development.
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by talltimtom on Saturday July 14, 2018 @05:26AM
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2 adults and 2 children on 16m2 with 2 working salaries. It’s not about changing standards, it’s about families with children needing enough room to have beds for everyone and hopefully still fitting a small sofa.
Back in the day, that same family would be able to have twice as big a home with one one working parent, but that was before the whole market started playing chicken to see who could put themselves most in debt to carve out a little place to live.
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by earthandmoon on Saturday July 14, 2018 @05:45AM
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I somewhat envy that time before the 70s where a family could live on one salary and have a house and car.
Today you can’t even buy a house with 2 salaries. If you are living on one salary you will be struggling and will not be credit worthy. The banks assumes a life-standard to uphold which not everyone can cope with. Even if you can live with less the bank follow it's idea of life-standard.
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by Ar-Curunir on Saturday July 14, 2018 @05:03AM
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If you omit the second part of the phrase obviously the meaning changes. The commenter clearly said "large enough for a family".
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by billysielu on Saturday July 14, 2018 @05:25AM
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I think it's a response to house builders building new property with really low floor area - many people don't consider that are sufficient anymore. It's a huge problem in the UK where property is advertised by number of bedrooms and floor area is hard to find - so we get houses with lots of bedrooms, but the bedrooms are tiny, and so the whole downstairs area is also small. Standards aren't changing, houses are.
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by sideshowb on Saturday July 14, 2018 @04:33AM
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And the kids get mortgages in their 30s too presumably
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by usrusr on Saturday July 14, 2018 @05:47AM
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Only those who either expect to stay employed in the same geographic area for the remainder of their working life (this has dropped from "almost everybody" to "hardly anybody" where I live) or who simply do not care (I presume that this has stayed constant over generations)
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by sideshowb on Friday July 20, 2018 @09:08AM
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Here in the UK you can port mortgages from one house to another...
(Or at current interest rates let out the old place)
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by s3m4j on Saturday July 14, 2018 @04:33AM
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Counterpoint, to take a loan you have to trust the system to both do right by you, and not collapse from under you. It might be difficult now to trust those two things.
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by maxerickson on Saturday July 14, 2018 @05:29AM
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What's the downside of having a loan when the system collapses?
Just walk away from the property and there you go. The worse the collapse the easier that is.
Re:Unlike most millennials, Norway's are rich
by growlist on Saturday July 14, 2018 @05:44AM
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People have been calling a property market crash here in the UK for many many years, with others making £100ks out of property over the same period. Anyone that is sage enough to call the housing market should start a private equity company and make billions.