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Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by reaperducer on Friday July 13, 2018 @11:23AM (#17523685)
This sort of thing is why I don't use Airbnb, or similar services.

If I want a professional hotel experience, I stay at a hotel. If I wanted a less predictable experience from people playing at running a hotel, I'd stay at one of these amateur hotels.

To be sure, there are excellent hotel-grade Airbnb places. But just like there are excellent Uber/Lyft drivers, there are others who are simply cosplaying taxi driver.

It's the nature of the "gig economy." And why I avoid it.

Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by rsync on Friday July 13, 2018 @01:04PM (#17524681)
"If I want a professional hotel experience, I stay at a hotel. If I wanted a less predictable experience from people playing at running a hotel, I'd stay at one of these amateur hotels."

I really appreciate a nice hotel and often opt for that, however the ability to rent an entire freestanding home (or flat) is a game changer for families and groups traveling.

I find that there are some pretty simple heuristics you can employ to avoid these bad airbnb experiences ... the quality of the home/unit can instantly be assessed by looking at the bathroom and kitchen pictures. If you see shower curtains, you pass - if you see glass shower doors, you proceed. A high end surface and a nice range/stove in the kitchen pictures tell you everything you need to know about the unit.

As for the hosts, never, ever book with new hosts and always discuss things over the phone and get a sense as to whom you are dealing with.

The nicer and more expensive the unit, the better the experience you will have.

Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by denimnerd on Friday July 13, 2018 @01:35PM (#17524958)
There's plenty of local property management companies that handle short term rentals. At least in tourist locations. We've been renting full houses for large groups since before the Internet..
Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by idontpost on Tuesday July 17, 2018 @04:14PM (#17552885)
And they all list their units on AirBnB now.
Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by unethical_ban on Friday July 13, 2018 @02:00PM (#17525189)
>As for the hosts, never, ever book with new hosts

Ain't that a bit of a bootstrapping problem.

Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by archagon on Friday July 13, 2018 @06:11PM (#17527288)
When I was traveling solo for a prolonged period of time, I occasionally booked with new hosts. They were substantially cheaper, and you could usually figure out if they were honest or not by having a quick conversation and carefully reading the listing. Never had any problems. At worst, the rooms were a bit dirty at times (which was fine by me). At best, they were some of the most attentive hosts I had, and I'm happy to watch their positive reviews grow over the years following my initial one.

There will always be people willing to take a risk.

Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by dymk on Friday July 13, 2018 @02:39PM (#17525567)
Luckily enough for "power users", not everybody considers the motivations or risks around a gig economy. So there's always going to be some set of users out there willing to go through the vacation wood chipper that is a bad host.
Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by meowface on Friday July 13, 2018 @12:30PM (#17524375)
Not everyone can have that luxury. I've stayed in a dozen or so Airbnbs in the past few years, from low to high end, and didn't have a single bad experience. It's always a lot less expensive than hotels in the same area, and in many cases a higher quality building and room than nearby hotels. Just no room service.

There's honestly not much that can go wrong with an Airbnb experience as a guest, unless you're doing some weird spa cycle arrangement like the person in this story did, are gambling on a first-time host, or have some bizarre fluke. If they lie about any of the amenities or anything else in the listing it's simple to bring it up with Airbnb.

I've reached the point where I can't find a single reason to actually stay in a hotel anymore, no matter where I'm traveling (internationally or in the US).

Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by dorian-graph on Friday July 13, 2018 @01:06PM (#17524706)
Luxury? I travel _a lot_ (been to 45+ countries and travel every couple of weeks for fun) and more often then not, AirBnbs cost more. A lot of my friends travel just as much, if not more, than I do, and we've all slowly moved away from AirBnbs as much as possible. ftr we don't mind AirBnb, and I've had good experiences with them. Also, we're not luxurious travellers, but we do so as cheaply as we can manage.

The main reasons (cost aside) are unresponsive hosts, late hosts, and incorrect details. I've never had any 'weird' arrangements either, just normal stays.

Hell, people's experiences like this person's are reason enough.

Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by reaperducer on Friday July 13, 2018 @01:29PM (#17524913)
It's always a lot less expensive than hotels in the same area, and in many cases a higher quality building and room than nearby hotels. Just no room service.

That's interesting. Every now and again I'll look at Airbnb, just to see if it's changed much; especially if I'm trying to stay in an area with few choices.

Often all I see are spare bedrooms or studio apartments that people are putting online for more than the nearby hotels charge. I even remember seeing listings for couches, not even entire rooms. But I don't remember if that was Airbnb, or another service.

But room service, for me, is often a requirement. I'll pay extra for room service because with the way my business trips are scheduled, it's a necessity. Bonus points if it's available 24 hours.

Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by aleph4 on Tuesday July 17, 2018 @06:36PM (#17554106)
Try getting bed bugs and Airbnb refusing to refund you... That said, I'm staying at an Airbnb against next month for the reasons you stated...
Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by arglebarnacle on Friday July 13, 2018 @12:34PM (#17524414)
Honestly I don't think most Airbnb users are looking for a hotel like experience. They're looking for something in between renting an apartment in a foreign city for a month and a hotel--a genuine short term apartment rental.

I use Airbnb a lot, but I actually agree with what you're saying. If you want a profession hotel experience, stay at a hotel. Sometimes it's preferable to have more space, maybe a kitchen, and more privacy, even if it means giving up daily maid service, a front desk, or other typical hotel amenities.

Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by insensible on Friday July 13, 2018 @12:55PM (#17524604)
I hope that 1) Airbnb will clean up their act and 2) conventional businesses will be able to respond to the market niche so people can get the lodging they want without fear of weird corporate reprisals like in the OP.
Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by 3minus1 on Friday July 13, 2018 @04:09PM (#17526252)
> there are excellent Uber/Lyft drivers, there are others who are simply cosplaying taxi driver.

I completely disagree with this. 99% of Lyft drivers pass the very low bar of being able to drive somewhere without getting into an accident, which is all most people care about when they need a ride.

Re:Digital Exile: How I Got Banned for Life from AirBnB by atombender on Friday July 13, 2018 @05:15PM (#17526764)
Personally, while I dislike AirBnB for the reasons discussed in this thread, I don't rent places on AirBnB because of the gig economy or because I enjoy being in an apartment that has wardrobes full of other people's stuff. It's because I don't like hotels.

I like apartments, cabins, tiny "boutique" B&Bs and similar. I like not meeting any staff; I don't want room service or a spa or a gym or any other such services. I like not being in some obnoxious city center. I like to have a real kitchen with a dining table; I like having multiple rooms and maybe a balcony or private back yard. Those places are generally hard to find, are often marketed towards large groups (and priced accordingly) or rich people, and are often much more expensive than on AirBnB.

There's no technical reason why someone couldn't build a nice hotel like that, of course.