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Re:Red Flags Signaling That a Rebuild Will Fail by Chyzwar on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @07:44PM (#17511129)
I am not saying to fire everyone. I am just saying that someone needs to be responsible. If you keep the same people in power they will repeat the same mistake. You need to keep domain knowledge but clueless management is just a burden.
Re:Red Flags Signaling That a Rebuild Will Fail by zbentley on Wednesday July 11, 2018 @10:32PM (#17511755)
That's utopian. The reason cautionary rules like those in TFA exist is because "just undo/revoke all the bad shit that led to your current situation", while certainly appealing in concept, is often impossible in practice. Instead, litmus tests like these, which can be practiced at the dev team level, prove useful. Who knows, if enough dev teams at a company arrive at the same conclusions using reasoning like this, perhaps they really can put enough pressure on management to induce firings of prominent debt-incurring people. Even (and more likely) if not, that understanding at the engineering level will help mitigate future damage/mistakes.
Re:Red Flags Signaling That a Rebuild Will Fail by watwut on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:05AM (#17512304)
New people will repeat most of original people mistakes too - many bad designs look good before you tried them.

But also, wtf is it with people that the first instinct in any kind of situation is to fire everyone.

Re:Red Flags Signaling That a Rebuild Will Fail by ConceptJunkie on Thursday July 12, 2018 @01:24PM (#17516745)
I think it's the phrase used by someone else in the comment chain: "clueless management".

You can have the best developers and architects in the world, but clueless management will sabotage anything they do, whereas good management can accomplish plenty with teams that aren't the best possible.