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Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by k__ on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @07:28AM (#17497133)
I think smartphones are the right form-factor for this.

You can carry them arround, even do most stuff on the small touch screen.

The only problem is their interface.

You would need something better than USB or lightning. Something more like PCIe, to get a low latency connection to your other devices (ereader, laptop, desktop, tv, etc.) and the external devices could also offer your the resources that make them unique. I mean a bigger screen or different UI is cool, but the USP of a desktop is also its CPU/GPU that is much faster.

Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by tgb on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @07:34AM (#17497155)
Thunderbolt 3 is certainly enough - see its use in eGPU setups. (My understanding is that this actually runs PCIe lines over it.)
Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by k__ on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @07:46AM (#17497208)
Nice, but are 4PCIe lanes enough (I read TB3 emulates 4)? Don't GPUs use more lanes?
Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by Postremus on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @08:11AM (#17497313)
At least for graphic cards, 4 lines are enough. Linus tech tips did some videos on external gpu enclosures (e.g. [1]). Conclusion was, if I recall correctly, that the performance declined around 10% when using such an enclosure.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D79GsrEqe4

Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by k__ on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @08:19AM (#17497364)
Pretty cool.

Question is, could you fit that tech in a smartphone?

Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by rbanffy on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @09:02AM (#17497649)
In theory, at least, you could build a cellphone around a GPU with a couple ARM cores thrown in and keep most of the GPU powered down while you are not docked. When you are connected to a decent power supply over USB-C, you could fire up those cores, provided your phone's back is a massive heat sink (a dock can provide the airflow).

It won't beat a 300W monster or accurately predict the future weather for 10 years, but it'd be more than reasonable for casual gaming.

Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by k__ on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @09:35AM (#17497906)
My idea was that the system I dock my smartphone into would add display, input and extra compute via TB
Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by rbanffy on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @10:23AM (#17498338)
But why do you want to move the computing power? The hardware is ubiquitous and cheap. It's your data that's unique.
Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by detaro on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @08:10AM (#17497310)
They do, but you can go quite far without having them, so it's likely not much of an issue It seems unlikely you'd do very GPU-bandwidth intense applications which such a hybrid device.
Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by jannes on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @11:04AM (#17498680)
Thunderbolt 3 bottlenecks many GPUs. It's not fast enough yet. More here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Zw-DlTn-M
Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by bryanlarsen on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @09:42AM (#17497962)
"low latency"

USB2 has low enough latency for gaming mice and keyboards, and the various embedded display port interfaces (USB-C alternate mode, thunderbolt) have no more latency than desktop DP.

Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by beauzero on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @09:57AM (#17498107)
It needs to be a bluetooth replacement. No wires. Set it on top of a wireless charging station at a maximum.
Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by chiefalchemist on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @07:36AM (#17497159)
Why can't it snap / connect to the UI (screen)?
Re:Microsoft announces Surface Go by k__ on Tuesday July 10, 2018 @07:45AM (#17497200)
I don't understand?