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Re:Palliative sedation, an end-of-life practice that is lega... by intralizee on Sunday July 08, 2018 @12:38PM (#17484656)
I've been trying to receive "euthanasia" for myself. I suffer gender dysphoria. I think it's a shame how society can discriminate a person with an illness compared to another group with a different illness; when it comes to receiving what is considered a medical treatment for ending pain. The terminology for who qualifies & receives euthanasia is flexible in the jurisdictions that offer it by terminology but people will warp their own perception around who they view should have a right to qualify to die by personal opinions without understanding the pain of another. Society doesn't help some people and euthanasia can be a real solution for the current system until real help evolves; where euthanasia can be less thought about.
Re:Palliative sedation, an end-of-life practice that is lega... by hartator on Sunday July 08, 2018 @12:55PM (#17484774)
I am sorry about that that. Feel free to reach me via PM (email in profile) if you want someone to talk to.
Re:Palliative sedation, an end-of-life practice that is lega... by albertgoeswoof on Sunday July 08, 2018 @01:47PM (#17485101)
I am not sure if this will help you, but to bring some perspective, this is very much a rational position on public health. Given that gender dysphoria is not actually a terminal illness it is probably not a good idea to offer euthanasia for it - there is a not-insignificant chance you will fully recover.

Suicide rates are much lower in areas where people have less access to things that can end their life (e.g. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/magazine/guns-and-suicide/), statistically speaking many people do make it through. By offering euthanasia to people who would otherwise survive, those people will lose their shot at life beyond their condition.

Public health policy has to be driven from the net benefits to all and not at the individual case level.

Re:Palliative sedation, an end-of-life practice that is lega... by intralizee on Sunday July 08, 2018 @01:55PM (#17485140)
Gender dysphoria is an actual terminal illness depending on the person. Many people end up dead because of it. My ability, desire, or whatever to eat diminished years ago because of it and my health continues to get poor with also lack of sleep. Similar to other illnesses where the body shuts down in the functions of having good health. I've been seeing several doctors for several years and continue to do so with trying to voice my right for euthanasia the past several months. Currently people take a diagnosis and have their opinion glazed over by success stories of people fitting the diagnosis. It's sad when people then refuse to acknowledge the ones who have a different reality with the same diagnosis. I think this happens a lot in the medical community.
Re:Palliative sedation, an end-of-life practice that is lega... by sokoloff on Monday July 09, 2018 @01:14AM (#17488109)
> Gender dysphoria is an actual terminal illness depending on the person. Many people end up dead because of it.

That doesn't seem to me to be a reasonable standard for medically-indicated euthanasia. Influenza meets that test more strongly.

I do wish you the best in your future path, however long that may be.

Re:Palliative sedation, an end-of-life practice that is lega... by intralizee on Monday July 09, 2018 @06:59AM (#17489345)
To you what would make Gender Dysphoria a candidate for Euthanasia? The illness you listed is the same to some with Gender Dysphoria. I’ve known people with my illness who have committed suicide and they all communicated it’s like living in hell and feeling robbed of life. I think it comes down to your own perception being discriminatory based on your own personal opinion with disregarding pain not experienced of a certain life with an illness that people can’t imagine because it’s psychological.
Re:Palliative sedation, an end-of-life practice that is lega... by sokoloff on Monday July 09, 2018 @08:51AM (#17489810)
My personal inclination is that anyone of sound enough mind to carefully consider the topic ought to be able to opt for physician-assisted suicide after a short waiting/consulting period as an essential element of agency over their own life.

That's beside the point in that the current medical practice and legal environment doesn't support that position broadly, so with respect to medical indication, the fact that some people die from a given condition does not seem to be a workable threshold for supporting euthanasia as a treatment.

Re:Palliative sedation, an end-of-life practice that is lega... by intralizee on Monday July 09, 2018 @05:25PM (#17493547)
Some people don't die from an illness that is considered a terminal illness and which receives euthanasia in the current medical practice. I can think of a few people who have survived certain types of cancer. Also it really depends on where a person is located right now. I could obtain euthanasia if I were to fly to Switzerland. I haven't considered doing that just yet and I don't necessarily find it the same as receiving the treatment in my birth country. There has already been a case where a person suffering Gender Dysphoria received euthanasia (not my country) and someone obtained euthanasia from traumatic rape throughout childhood (again not my country).
Re:Palliative sedation, an end-of-life practice that is lega... by ashleyn on Sunday July 08, 2018 @01:17PM (#17484909)
It's far beter to consider current, effective treatments for this instead of considering euthanasia for it.
Re:Palliative sedation, an end-of-life practice that is lega... by intralizee on Sunday July 08, 2018 @01:26PM (#17484977)
I'm on the current medical treatment I can afford. I wouldn't combine the word effective in that sentence. I've given it enough time to decide the treatment is unacceptable in making the pain be bearable. I'm at a point where it's euthanasia or suicide and which is the case for people seeking euthanasia. Some people have more pain than others with the same illness classification and depending on how life transpired. It shouldn't be an outsider limiting others scenario.
Re:Palliative sedation, an end-of-life practice that is lega... by md224 on Sunday July 08, 2018 @02:01PM (#17485166)
I’m sorry you’re going through so much suffering. I personally don’t think anyone experiencing mental anguish should commit suicide before giving “drugs of abuse” a try. These drugs are so popular and addictive precisely because they’re so good at making you feel better. They’re a last resort, but I think they’re a better last resort than suicide.

Here’s a link to a recent Reddit comment where I discussed this idea, along with suggestions of drugs to try:

https://www.reddit.com/r/depressionregimens/comments/8wcv8f/...

Re:Palliative sedation, an end-of-life practice that is lega... by alberthartman on Sunday July 08, 2018 @03:36PM (#17485711)
Have you tried psychedelics? They’ve been reported as being effective at setting the world straight for many people. Probably need to do a good deal of research first, and conventional medical information sources will probably be unhelpful.
Re:Palliative sedation, an end-of-life practice that is lega... by eadmund on Sunday July 08, 2018 @01:24PM (#17484963)
> I've been trying to receive "euthanasia" for myself. I suffer gender dysphoria.

I'm sorry to read that you want to die, but I hope very much that you continue to fail. You are valuable, you make the world better by being in it and it will be worse when you do die. Yes, you have a mental condition, but that is no reason to hate yourself: you deserve love, not hate. Life is tough for everyone, some more than others, but it's also full of joy & beauty, and you're part of that joy & beauty.