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Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by Aloha on Monday July 02, 2018 @09:25PM (#17446757)
I'm in the opposite of this situation, I'm among the 10% of the youngest employees in the company, when around 60% of the company will be retiring within a decade. We're also in one of those high cost housing markets, and while I'm very well paid comparatively to others in my particular part of the technology sector - its still not enough to buy a house, or settle down - but they're somewhat unsympathetic when I talk about things like, working from home, remote working, etc, I generally get a blank stare.

So, there is a corollary here, make sure that pay and benefits are attractive to employees of all ages, not just one group.

Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by afpx on Tuesday July 03, 2018 @12:43AM (#17447592)
If it makes you feel any better, it wasn’t until I was 30 that my wife and I had enough for a downpayment for a house. When I graduated, my salary was $40k. And, 3-bedroom houses, in my economically-attractive, but not extravagent, area were around $300k. Rent for a 2br was about $1000 / month, so saving $60k took quite a few years. Of course, several co-workers had well-off parents who bought them their first house (lucky them), but for many of us, we just had to pay off debt, and save, and save, and be confident that it would work out. It took a while, especially considering the two recessions, and it felt like it would never get better. But, it eventually did. So, although I don’t know your particular situation, I’m confident that people in their 20s today will eventually prevail. The difference is that the younger generation is enormous, and all of those people buying houses at the same time puts demand pressure on prices. But, it will work out.
Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by CalRobert on Tuesday July 03, 2018 @04:42AM (#17448501)
This comment kind of illustrates the knowledge assymetry.

We're talking about people in their thirties. People who graduated in 2008 and were amazing candidates but couldn't get a job because there _were none_. People who were then passed up for internships in 2013 as things got better because every hiring manager who graduated in 2006 (with maybe 20 grand in debt easily paid off) or boomer (who had no student debt but even if they did could gasp discharge it in bankruptcy) reviewing CV's thinks "wtf has this idiot been doing the last 4 years; hire that fresh grad".

Maybe they'll be able to afford a house when they're 50. Because paying off a mountain of student loans AND paying insane rent AND saving for a deposit (and god help you if you want children) has gotten to be basically impossible for a huge chunk of the population.

And yeah, there are lower cost of living places. Hope your partner and yourself can find work in the same one. And that somehow they magically make your student loans cheaper.

Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by afpx on Tuesday July 03, 2018 @11:54AM (#17451199)
Thanks for taking the time to educate. I had no idea.
Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by tjr225 on Tuesday July 03, 2018 @01:41AM (#17447831)
Lol. My wife and I are 30 and we've still got 50k worth of student loans...
Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by Aloha on Tuesday July 03, 2018 @02:17AM (#17447967)
It does, I can afford about 300-350k, which buys me a postage stamp size condo.

I'm 35, the nearest house I can afford is about 30-40 miles away - I cant touch something for less than 500k, in that radius.

Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by wonderbear on Tuesday July 03, 2018 @09:48AM (#17450135)
The cost of college is going up dramatically. The younger engineers I've worked with recently often have six figures in debt starting out, and a lot of them went to state schools. They'll be paying that well past the traditional home buying age.

Yeah, they could have made some different choices and only been, say, $60k in debt, but "it gets better" comes with some pretty big caveats for a lot of people right now.

Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by bla2 on Tuesday July 03, 2018 @07:37AM (#17449299)
> it wasn’t until I was 30 that my wife and I had enough for a downpayment for a house.

Not sure if that's meant to evoke sympathy, but to me that sounds extremely entitled. I'd be grateful if I had a house at 30.

Is it common for people around you to feel they deserve to own a house?

Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by afpx on Tuesday July 03, 2018 @01:04PM (#17451854)
Entitled to a house? No - I grew up poor, man. My single mom of 4 made less than $8,000 many years (Bet you didn’t know that, as recent as 25 years ago, some Americans still didn’t have bathrooms and full electricity). No, in my family, it was unusual to own a real house (as opposed to a mobile house). I had no entitlement.

But, I also grew up in a place where real houses cost $25-40k. So, I’m a way, yes, I had some expectation that if I got a STEM degree, I’d be able to afford a house. But, a $300k house? No - where I grew up, that wasn’t even a thing.

Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by bla2 on Tuesday July 03, 2018 @04:44PM (#17453477)
Thanks for sharing!
Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by Aloha on Tuesday July 03, 2018 @01:56PM (#17452311)
there is a point when you realize rent is just a treadmill that keeps going faster.
Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by tjr225 on Tuesday July 03, 2018 @03:38PM (#17453042)
I live in a high rent area much like yourself and I don't necessarily agree. It's pretty affordable for couples like my wife and I- and we aren't running the risk of having to sell our house at a major loss if and when the housing market falls out due to whatever reasons.

We're saving for a house while pretty aggressively paying off our student loans... but the flexibility of renting has been great.

Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by Aloha on Tuesday July 03, 2018 @05:11PM (#17453655)
The issue that I have, is cost of living has been going up higher than wages
Re:Surviving as an ‘Old’ in the Tech World by tjr225 on Wednesday July 04, 2018 @01:20AM (#17455394)
It has...I can totally agree with that my friend. I think it is slowly getting better, however.