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Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by ycnewbienomore on Sunday July 01, 2018 @04:19PM (#17437344)
I can’t give up my Model 3. Driving any Tesla car is a dopamine hit. You really have to try and drive them to experience it and you’ll be hooked. Many people don’t realize what a refreshing and tremendous difference a smooth and powerful torque curve gives. Seriously forget all the noise about Elon Musk. Try and drive an electric car, which are by far still smoother than gear-shifting gas powered cars, and then try a Tesla.
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by davidgould on Sunday July 01, 2018 @09:25PM (#17438735)
Exactly this. I drive a Chevy Spark EV, which is based on the worlds least exciting car ... and it’s brilliant! I would never buy another gas car, they just don’t drive well. And yet we hear all this dribble about panel gaps and the stitching on the seat leather. I never knew there were so many so willing to look so silly in public.
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by Fins on Monday July 02, 2018 @12:22AM (#17439331)
Panel gaps say a lot about construction quality, and how well it will hold up going forward.

And if paying $60K+ for a car, I would expect something with amenities of a $60K+ car, not something with terrible ergonomics (touchscreen, right...) and missing features that a $30K Hyundai has.

Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by davidgould on Monday July 02, 2018 @07:23AM (#17440756)
Thank you for demonstrating my point.
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by Fins on Monday July 02, 2018 @11:56PM (#17447384)
Exactly. Although the point isn't necessarily what you think it is.
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by pasta on Sunday July 01, 2018 @04:44PM (#17437448)
Tesla is not the only brand that creates electric cars.

This is all about Elon making clames he could not make true.

The danger for Tesla is that people don't want to wait for broken promises anymore and will choose another brand.

Edit: for example the Jaguar I-PACE might be very competitive.

Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by rich-w-big-ego on Sunday July 01, 2018 @08:45PM (#17438601)
The iPace would rival the Model X. The iPace is FAR behind the Model X in all performance measures. The iPace has a manufacturer's estimated range of ~350km, no EPA rated range given. The Model X has EPA rated maximum range of 475km - that's a third party verified range that is 125km above the estimated (and very optimistic) range of the iPace. As far as speed goes, iPace is 4.8s to 100km/h, while the P100D variant of the Model X is 0 - 100km/h in 3.6s, a solid second faster.
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by ryanhuff on Sunday July 01, 2018 @05:34PM (#17437743)
It’s not just being electric. I drove a Prius for several years before getting my Model 3. After now driving the Tesla for a month, I drove the Prius again last week. What an awful car.
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by bpd1069 on Sunday July 01, 2018 @07:12PM (#17438235)
My P3D will arrive in 2-4 months -- very excited for the future of transportation, and an end to gasoline/diesel cars. 100 years is a long time without disruption, and couldn't come soon enough.

But I love the seeing all the hate here, I wonder if people at the turn of the century reacted the same way when their horse drawn carriages were disrupted.

Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by stevehawk on Sunday July 01, 2018 @10:13PM (#17438897)
I have yet to hear anyone say they're impressed with the I-Pace
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by geor3 on Monday July 02, 2018 @09:51PM (#17446857)
1. "I-Pace is the most exciting, innovative car Jaguar has made since 1961, and it has the dynamics and look to back it up" - https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/a22003661...

2. From someone not in the automotive press: "The interior build quality is second to none." - although he sees enough negatives to hold out for a Model 3 instead - https://model3ownersclub.com/threads/jaguar-i-pace-review.62...

Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by Tepix on Monday July 02, 2018 @05:09AM (#17440275)
"The Jaguar I-PACE is an incredible, gorgeous vehicle" https://electrek.co/2018/06/14/jaguar-i-pace-review-the-240-...
Re:Tesla meets self-imposed deadline for Model 3, rolls out ... by Fins on Sunday July 01, 2018 @05:48PM (#17437817)
Sorry, but no, didn't do anything for me. Especially and particularly driving a Tesla, which felt almost like getting into a Yugo. Except Yugo was at least priced appropriately for its quality and comforts, and Tesla isn't.