Re:Montreal Moving Day: what happens when a whole city moves...
by cameldrv on Saturday June 30, 2018 @07:50PM
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It's even worse in (some parts of?) Germany. Most apartments come without a kitchen. The law says that they have to provide a sink and a stove, and they provide the cheapest stove there is and a little pedestal sink. You're expected to ask the landlord to remove these and order a kitchen, with all of the cabinets, countertops, sink, refrigerator, washing machine, and stove. When you move, you either try to take it all apart and make it fit in your new apartment, or try to sell it to the next tenant. With first month's rent, 3 months security deposit, and a kitchen, moving in to an apartment is very expensive.
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Re:Montreal Moving Day: what happens when a whole city moves...
by st26 on Sunday July 01, 2018 @02:05AM
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Are the cabinets, countertops, sinks, etc very different in German apartments? (Simpler, less customized, more minimal) You're practically describing a full kitchen remodel in the US, which might run $10,000-20,000, or so I hear, with at least a week of labor...
Re:Montreal Moving Day: what happens when a whole city moves...
by Slartie on Sunday July 01, 2018 @04:44AM
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It depends on the kitchen size and your expectations. Your price range describes kitchens that we would never buy for a rental apartment, but only for a self-owned one or a house you bought. The more typical kitchens in rental apartments cost between 1000-6000€, and take one or two days to build up (for a professional, although a lot of people do large parts of the work themselves or have talented friends do it, so it takes a little longer but is cheaper).
Many times people also bring their old appliances from their old kitchens with them, so they only need to buy the cabinets and stuff.
It still is one of the big pain points in moving: what happens with the old kitchen, and where do I get a new one from?
Re:Montreal Moving Day: what happens when a whole city moves...
by st26 on Sunday July 01, 2018 @09:40AM
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Thanks for the reply. Still hard to imagine! The cabinets and counters in particular, the mind boggles. I completely agree, it sounds like a huge pain point.
Re:Montreal Moving Day: what happens when a whole city moves...
by andybak on Saturday June 30, 2018 @08:17PM
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It's very hard to get unstuck from a local maximum
Re:Montreal Moving Day: what happens when a whole city moves...
by mynewtb on Sunday July 01, 2018 @07:05AM
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Most? I would say 'some' rather. It definitely was not the case in any of the 15 moves I took part in.
Re:Montreal Moving Day: what happens when a whole city moves...
by jen729w on Sunday July 01, 2018 @05:15AM
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But don’t you tend to stay there longer? Whereas here (Australia) it’s not uncommon to move every year – don’t anyone dare argue with me there, I speak from bitter experience – my understanding is that in Germany people tend to lease a place for 5, 10, more years?
Re:Montreal Moving Day: what happens when a whole city moves...
by rmccue on Sunday July 01, 2018 @07:51AM
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> Whereas here (Australia) it’s not uncommon to move every year – don’t anyone dare argue with me there, I speak from bitter experience
Can confirm; you get pretty sick of moving every 6/12 months, but on the plus side, you do get a decent amount of variety. :)