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Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by beaconstudios on Friday June 29, 2018 @04:22PM (#17427552)
It's worrying that while reading the article I was nodding along thinking "yep, sounds like 4chan" and it turned out to be tumblr. When both extremes of the political spectrum have groups of stalkers and trolls trying to ruin people's lives for committing some imaginary sin, you know things are screwed.
Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by astrodust on Friday June 29, 2018 @04:52PM (#17427780)
It's not extremes of the political spectrum, but extremes of behaviour.

If this is Kiwi Farms, though... https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms

Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by tomrod on Friday June 29, 2018 @10:09PM (#17429121)
The internet is a dark place in some corners.
Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by astrodust on Saturday June 30, 2018 @01:07PM (#17431614)
Those dark corners need a healthy dose of napalm.
Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by beaconstudios on Friday June 29, 2018 @06:45PM (#17428421)
the two seem to have a form of magnetism.
Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by astrodust on Saturday June 30, 2018 @01:08PM (#17431620)
It's not magnetism, it's attractiveness to abusive people.

Some people don't really care what cause they get behind so long as they get to bully people and raise hell. They'd be anarchists, leftists, alt-right, whatever, so long as they get to beat up people and set things on fire.

This is not to say both political extremes are identical, but that certain people will latch on to any group that will tolerate their behaviour.

Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by beaconstudios on Monday July 02, 2018 @11:40AM (#17442591)
absolutely, that's IMO the nugget of truth nested within horseshoe theory.
Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by joe_the_user on Friday June 29, 2018 @04:58PM (#17427820)
Edit: You are misread the post (and I didn't quite read it in enough detail myself). The post claims, Kiwi Farms, large alt-right-influence forum, is manipulating progressives to attack this person.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Kiwi_Farms

Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by beaconstudios on Friday June 29, 2018 @05:00PM (#17427834)
The story itself claims tumblr users (and more generally, to quote, "young progressives") were behind the stalking, unless I misread.

[edit] sounds like kiwifarms is a 4chan-type trolling/alt-right site and simply got tumblr to also attack these poor folks by making up stories about them being animal abusers.

Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by tedajax on Friday June 29, 2018 @05:33PM (#17428015)
Yes you misread
Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by beaconstudios on Friday June 29, 2018 @05:50PM (#17428118)
what am I misunderstanding from this?

"Still, this should be mundane. People say a wrong thing on the Internet. It happens.

The trouble is, young "progressives" at the moment are falling all over themselves to be part of an expulsion — to root out and help exile some secret predator hiding in plain sight.

So if you have a target whose life you want to ruin for funsies, all you need to do is dig through their history for some circumstantial evidence, concoct a vaguely related story that makes them sound horrible, and circulate it in a callout post.

The problem, then, is not that someone pulled a story about Styx out of their ass. The problem is that Kiwi Farms is a well-oiled machine for producing hundreds of such stories, and the one about Styx is now listed on a Tumblr somewhere under a heading like "animal abuse", calling me a "known literal animal abuser". Because someone can't read Wikipedia."

Sounds like someone found these stories, misinterpreted them (wilfully or not) to sound like abuse, then got tumblr all riled up to harass them. I suppose the initiator wasn't necessarily from that space, but it certainly seems like tumblr/progressives are taking part in the harassment.

Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by CiPHPerCoder on Friday June 29, 2018 @08:10PM (#17428791)
The stories were spun (imagine the telephone game with malicious actors), allegedly by Kiwi Farms users, to maximize the harm to their victims.

(I'm saying "allegedly" here because, honestly, I haven't had the time to dig into fact-checking the story. I don't believe the author is lying, however.)

Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by nl on Friday June 29, 2018 @07:56PM (#17428738)
Your misunderstanding is blaming the tumblr users for this where they are victims of a deliberate misinformation campaign.

The whole “someone can’t read Wikipedia” excuse is exactly the same as what trolls themselves say.

Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by beaconstudios on Friday June 29, 2018 @08:30PM (#17428858)
obviously the kiwi farms people are the main perpetrators here (and I now realise they are clearly 4chan/alt-right types), but we shouldn't apologise for the tumblr people's readiness to harass people off the back of hearsay either.
Re:A Japanese cyber-security expert who defended basic decen... by nl on Saturday June 30, 2018 @04:15AM (#17429988)
Thanks, and yes I agree that the Tumblr people shouldn’t react so easily.