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Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by 1va on Wednesday September 29, 2010 @10:59PM (#1742101)
> That's a 6,000x return on his capital in 5 years. > I'll put it this way--if you made a $250 IRA contribution in 2005, it would have to be worth $1,500,000 today to match that return.

If you invested one penny that investment would now need to be worth $60 to match that return. Maybe it is just me, but $250 to $1.5M doesn't help me visualize a 6000x return at all. This analogy reminds me of an old Dennis Miller bit from Saturday Night Live where to illustrate the size of the national debt he takes out a dollar bill and says "it would take stack of these 3 trillion high to pay it back".

Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by ghshephard on Wednesday September 29, 2010 @11:49PM (#1742210)
I'll point out the blindingly obvious that nobody else can bring themselves to point out - future rounds have likely reduced that original 10% to a somewhat smaller number. There is also a pretty good chance that Thiel has taken some off the table, further reducing his stake.

Still a great investment.

Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by staunch on Thursday September 30, 2010 @12:22AM (#1742266)
You're right about dilution, but it's very unlikely that he's taken money out.
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by ghshephard on Thursday September 30, 2010 @01:20AM (#1742367)
Interesting - Facebook has had a pretty active secondary market - I've had a couple opportunities to invest, but couldn't afford the minimum buy in. What's your information that he hasn't taken some off the table? Seems like a reasonable move once it went north of $10 Billion.
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by rms on Thursday September 30, 2010 @05:15AM (#1742719)
Thiel doesn't need the liquid money and has no reason not to signal that he values the stock extremely highly.
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by bl4k on Thursday September 30, 2010 @05:26AM (#1742732)
That is not the issue with him obviously, but a few reasons why he would sell:

a) bring liquidity to the secondary market

b) realize some of his gains and book them for his funds figures for this year

c) hedge against facebook being at its peak. so eg. if he believes that there is a 10% chance facebook is at its peak now, he can then work out what % to sell to realize max gains based on risk assessment (Thiel is after all a hedge fund manager).

Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by rmorrison on Wednesday September 29, 2010 @11:09PM (#1742125)
It's not the best investment in history: there are people who have won more than $100,000,000 on a single $1 lottery ticket.
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by robryan on Thursday September 30, 2010 @12:48AM (#1742322)
Hmm, best informed investment? I think in this case there is a little more in play than just extreme luck.
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by ww520 on Thursday September 30, 2010 @02:42AM (#1742489)
What happened to the guys who bought Manhattan for beads way back? Did they make it ok?
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by BerislavLopac on Thursday September 30, 2010 @05:42AM (#1742754)
Not quite -- they were expunged by the Brits a few years later... ;)
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by gojomo on Thursday September 30, 2010 @12:55AM (#1742328)
We can be sure, mathematically, that a lottery ticket is a bad investment overall even if it pays off. For example, repeating it 100,000,000 times is nearly certain to leave you with less than you started.

Plausibly, the decision to invest in Facebook (and similar opportunities when they present themselves) had a positive expected return at the time. Even knowing Facebook is an outlier result -- like a winning lottery ticket -- its payoff actually gives us a hint that the original decision was positive-expectation, and its magnitude. (The fact that a lottery ticket happens to win changes our idea of the original expectation not at all.)

Also of note: Thiel didn't just invest money, he invested his expertise and network. That, which almost certainly helped Zuckerberg aim higher and avoid pitfalls/compromises that took down other companies, was one of the best non-monetary investments ever.

Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by ankimal on Thursday September 30, 2010 @12:11AM (#1742247)
I think Ram Shriram's Google investment was probably better. Here is a list of some more http://www.suite101.com/content/greatest-venture-capital-inv....

Also, there is some debate over the $24 the dutch bought Manhattan for from the Indians. Jury is still out on that one.

Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by rms on Thursday September 30, 2010 @05:17AM (#1742722)
Yup, as article commenters point out, this blog post is wrong for comparing Google VCs to a Facebook angel investor instead of comparing the Google angel investors.
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by aseem on Wednesday September 29, 2010 @11:58PM (#1742223)
Do people really believe that if Facebook goes public that it will be worth more than Google when it went public? I want to know the details of how people (i.e. Forbes Magazine) came up with the $33B valuation.
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by riffer on Wednesday September 29, 2010 @10:30PM (#1742041)
It's not that he made one of the best investments in history.

It's that he has one of the best investment processes.

Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by kiba on Wednesday September 29, 2010 @11:10PM (#1742130)
How do we know that if he got very lucky or that he's very good at what he do?
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by bl4k on Wednesday September 29, 2010 @11:21PM (#1742156)
because it's Peter frickin' Thiel - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Thiel
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by patrickgzill on Wednesday September 29, 2010 @11:50PM (#1742213)
Is there a Peter Thiel Facts Page, like there is for Chuck Norris? No?
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by deltapoint on Thursday September 30, 2010 @02:12AM (#1742453)
There is Ron Conway facts though

http://twitter.com/ronconwayfacts

Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by btucker on Thursday September 30, 2010 @12:32AM (#1742293)
If I had $500K lying around in Fall '04 I would have been chasing down Mark Zuckerberg trying to get him to take it for whatever tiny piece of the company I could get.

Being at one of the first set of "facebook schools" it was very clear where things were headed. The amount of mindshare facebook had on campus within the first couple weeks of the semester was absolutely staggering.

Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by wyclif on Thursday September 30, 2010 @12:07AM (#1742237)
Problem: Facebook is not worth $33 billion: http://37signals.com/svn/posts/2585-facebook-is-not-worth-33...
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by aberkowitz on Wednesday September 29, 2010 @11:37PM (#1742185)
The keyword here is "estimated value". It is very likely that Peter Thiel did very well, but a 2-3 billion dollar return is not guaranteed.
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by gojomo on Thursday September 30, 2010 @12:46AM (#1742317)
You're right... but it could also be more!
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by aberkowitz on Thursday September 30, 2010 @01:03AM (#1742345)
Good point; thanks for opening my mind to further possibilities. Either way, it's either underly or overly sensational at the moment.
Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by huhtenberg on Thursday September 30, 2010 @01:19AM (#1742365)
> Today ... his stake is worth between $2-3 billion

That's 2-3 billion Zuckerbucks as some banking people call 'em :)

Re:Did Peter Thiel Make The Single Best Investment In History? by bretthellman on Thursday September 30, 2010 @12:16AM (#1742258)
Time will tell. At this time... it's safe to say it wasn't the worst investment.