Re:Canada Is Preparing Steel Quotas, Tariffs on China and Ot...
by conanbatt on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @11:12AM
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Jesus. If china has a real out-ward facing crisis we are all toast.
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Re:Canada Is Preparing Steel Quotas, Tariffs on China and Ot...
by gigatexal on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @11:20AM
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Yes because by buying and holding our debt they both keep our dollar strong and allow us to keep over spending. Without them (buying our debt) we are screwed.
Re:Canada Is Preparing Steel Quotas, Tariffs on China and Ot...
by jorts on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @11:34AM
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I'd be interested in hearing how much of an impact that has on the US economy since most US debt isn't owned by China.
Re:Canada Is Preparing Steel Quotas, Tariffs on China and Ot...
by toomuchtodo on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @08:02PM
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China is the second largest foreign holder of US debt ($1.17 trillion). That’s still a substantial amount of influence.
https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/fsreports/rpt/treasBulletin/...
Re:Canada Is Preparing Steel Quotas, Tariffs on China and Ot...
by indemnity on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @12:00PM
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You know they only hold 4-6% of the US total debt, right?
The vast majority is held by US institutions.
Re:Canada Is Preparing Steel Quotas, Tariffs on China and Ot...
by misterhtmlcss on Thursday June 28, 2018 @11:03AM
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In a world at that scale that much debt held by one single entity is massive. Activist investors have taken over large companies on such a small amount.
I'd be careful undervaluing the influence that a single debt holder of that size could have. Plus you are further assuming that that's the totality of their influence and it's likely 2-3* that if you include influence.
I'd definitely be wary if I was going to war (trade is the new war) with another nation.
Re:Canada Is Preparing Steel Quotas, Tariffs on China and Ot...
by fosco on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @12:06PM
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Can you help me find sources for this? Having a tough time.
Re:Canada Is Preparing Steel Quotas, Tariffs on China and Ot...
by Mindless2112 on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @12:48PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_St...
> "National Debt" of $21 trillion
> Leading foreign holders
> China $1,181.9 billion
Re:Canada Is Preparing Steel Quotas, Tariffs on China and Ot...
by gigatexal on Wednesday June 27, 2018 @01:39PM
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From the same article: “As of April 30, 2018, debt held by the public was $15.3 trillion and intragovernmental holdings were $5.7 trillion, for a total or "National Debt" of $21 trillion.[5] Debt held by the public was approximately 77% of GDP in 2017, ranked 43rd highest out of 207 countries.[6] The Congressional Budget Office forecast in April 2018 that the ratio will rise to nearly 100% by 2028, perhaps higher if current policies are extended beyond their scheduled expiration date.[7] As of December 2017, $6.3 trillion or approximately 45% of the debt held by the public was owned by foreign investors, the largest being China (about $1.18 trillion) then Japan (about $1.06 trillion).[8]” of the 6 trillion held by foreigners China has a sixth of it. Followed closely by japan. The point is that if an entity owning 1/12th of your debt decided to start selling it that entities’ borrowing costs would rise a lot which could lead to inflation. Inflation hurts our ability to buy aka purchasing power.