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Re:Shouting in the Datacenter (2008) [video] by raghavkhanna on Sunday June 24, 2018 @05:29PM (#17388492)
tl;dr, Vibration due to shouting causes measurable impact on spinning disk performance, increasing io latency. I guess this wouldn't apply to SSD's though?
Re:Shouting in the Datacenter (2008) [video] by milesward on Sunday June 24, 2018 @06:27PM (#17388708)
I can personally attest that there is an extreme version of this effect: do not use hard disk in PA/DJ situations... I crashed several of my early disks due reading MP3 data proximal to a certain pair of 18" push-pull PA subwoofers...
Re:Shouting in the Datacenter (2008) [video] by cm2187 on Monday June 25, 2018 @09:08AM (#17392080)
Sounds like the "engineers are retarded" anecdote [1] where on some Apple computers the speaker was located too close to the hard drive, resulting in a crash if you played something too loudly.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5d151lqJsA

Re:Shouting in the Datacenter (2008) [video] by everyone on Sunday June 24, 2018 @06:14PM (#17388663)
Are datacentres transitioning to SSDs ? Or have they already?
Re:Shouting in the Datacenter (2008) [video] by yjftsjthsd-h on Sunday June 24, 2018 @06:40PM (#17388752)
SSDs are used in datacenters, though in my experience they haven't completely replaced spinning rust. Typically I see flash as a (large) cache layer or for more important stuff, with spinning rust for bulk storage.
Re:Shouting in the Datacenter (2008) [video] by dfox on Sunday June 24, 2018 @08:17PM (#17389083)
The transition to various flash-based storage is essentially complete for anything that is inside the actual server (with booting the thing off SD card and that being the only storage inside being somewhat common), but for SAN systems SSDs aren't that much interesting, because the bottleneck is not in the storage media itself, but in the interconnect technology (typical SAN storage shelf can saturate it's FC ports on random IO traffic regardless of whether it is based on flash or spinning rust at 15k RPM)
Re:Shouting in the Datacenter (2008) [video] by lmilcin on Sunday June 24, 2018 @07:51PM (#17389005)
Most of the storage is and for quite some time will be magnetic until SSD costs lower enough. Also am not sure but I think for long term cold storage (backups, archives) magnetic can have advantages.
Re:Shouting in the Datacenter (2008) [video] by manigandham on Sunday June 24, 2018 @06:54PM (#17388801)
Yes, for primary disks and cache tiers. Archival storage and large disks are still on HDD, usually through some SAN vendor that handles replication and performance.
Re:Shouting in the Datacenter (2008) [video] by Annatar on Monday June 25, 2018 @05:12AM (#17390955)
They are still not cost efficient when compared to traditional hard disks, so they are usually used for intent logging and de-staging to conventional disks. The pricing is nowhere near competitive in USD/GB or in total capacity for SSD’s to replace conventional disk-based storage.