No: Body: Wants: To: Write: – YAML

Re:No: Body: Wants: To: Write: – YAML by tomc1985 on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @06:21PM (#17360368)

What is this, bag-on-YAML day at HN?

I am really beginning to hate programmer-centric tooling. It has turned all of us into these miserable, cretinous engineering snobs. It seems impossible for anyone to contemplate why people would choose to work differently than them. Zero empathy. Fucking pathetic.

Make software hard again, I say. Treat the compiler like you would treat your dominatrix. Life would be so much better that way!

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Re:No: Body: Wants: To: Write: – YAML by iainmerrick on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @06:24PM (#17360387)

At least the other link was a clear, well-written, well-reasoned article. I have no idea what this one is.

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Re:No: Body: Wants: To: Write: – YAML by PlanarFreak on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @06:45PM (#17360547)

I'm with you on this one. I enjoyed reading the arp242 article, but this one's like a bad meme - an incomprehensible mish-mash of links and emojis.

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Re:No: Body: Wants: To: Write: – YAML by seandougall on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @07:06PM (#17360704)

Not to mention fatal JS errors on mobile.

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Re:No: Body: Wants: To: Write: – YAML by ghuntley on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @06:34PM (#17360469)

It's a silly rant about feelings. Spin up a decent sized Kubernetes cluster or use CloudFormation and please report back how you feel 6 months later.

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Re:No: Body: Wants: To: Write: – YAML by iainmerrick on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @07:41PM (#17360904)

Kubernetes grew out of Borg, right?

Ever use borgcfg?

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Re:No: Body: Wants: To: Write: – YAML by ghuntley on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @09:12PM (#17361269)

Nah. Can you reference any public examples of an example cfg out in the wild?

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Re:No: Body: Wants: To: Write: – YAML by iainmerrick on Thursday June 21, 2018 @02:43AM (#17362689)

The first google hit I get is a presentation that includes a very small config sample: http://www.hpts.ws/papers/2015/wilkes.pdf

The second hit is a google+ post wailing “arrrrgh, somebody reinvented borgcfg for Kubernetes” :)

I’m guessing the switch to YAML, even though it might be a bit tedious, was an explicit reaction to the fact that the ultra-programmable borgcfg turned out to cause some big headaches.

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Re:No: Body: Wants: To: Write: – YAML by andrewguenther on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @06:25PM (#17360393)

bag-on-on-YAML-and-provide-no-useful-alternatives day

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Re:No: Body: Wants: To: Write: – YAML by mcphage on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @07:27PM (#17360825)

HOCON, from the Scala community, is great. It’s specifically designed for configure files (as opposed to data transfer) so has a bunch of features that make that easier.

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Re:No: Body: Wants: To: Write: – YAML by jrs95 on Wednesday June 20, 2018 @06:33PM (#17360460)

HCL is pretty good

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