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Re:Amazon Is Complicit in Online Sales of Counterfeit Goods:... by astura on Saturday June 16, 2018 @01:23PM (#17328304)
If I want cheap generic headphones I can go to monoprice and get something cheap but safe, legal, and decent quality - their $10 are surprising decent for what they are, throwaway headphones.

If I want nicer headphones I can go to a brick and mortar retailer (or their online counterpart) and get a selection of curtailed products from known brands provided by known suppliers with all the information about the products listed with a good search so I can compare. I have a choice but I don't have to slog through dozens of private label brands or poorly listed products with missing or incorrect descriptions/information. Or irrelevant products listed in the wrong product category.

If I go to Amazon I have to wade through pages of bad search results full of junky unsafe products from questionable sources (paradox of choice) with bad/missing information just to roll the dice that I don't get something counterfeit and/or unsafe.

What purpose does Amazon service now in this situation?

Re:Amazon Is Complicit in Online Sales of Counterfeit Goods:... by resu_nimda on Saturday June 16, 2018 @02:24PM (#17328639)
I think you're over-exaggerating the case against Amazon here. Does any savvy user just blindly type "headphones" into Amazon without knowing any of the brands, models, etc? No matter where I'm buying, the first step is always to do at least a few minutes of research. From that point I generally have very little trouble finding either the same brand name as the B&M, or a functional cheapo version. It really doesn't seem that hard to navigate (again, this assumes a somewhat savvy user, I can understand how someone like my mom could be confused/overwhelmed).

So for me, Amazon still offers a wide range of items and selection, many of which I would be hard pressed to find in a nearby B&M, and usually for cheaper (at least there are more price points to choose from). A recent example is some gold chainette fringe. I was actually in the fabric store and they had some but not enough, and I found a suitable replacement on Amazon for about 1/3 the price.

Re:Amazon Is Complicit in Online Sales of Counterfeit Goods:... by lozenge on Saturday June 16, 2018 @02:49PM (#17328730)
...but the ones on Amazon are counterfeit.
Re:Amazon Is Complicit in Online Sales of Counterfeit Goods:... by resu_nimda on Saturday June 16, 2018 @03:25PM (#17328880)
Again, if you know what you're doing, it's pretty easy to tell tell the difference. I followed the link in the article about the Elevation Lab headphone mount. The counterfeit listing is actually more convincing than most, but wait, "sold by suiningdonghanjiaju Co Ltd?" Hmm.

I'm not saying it's great that Amazon is allowing this stuff, my point was just that, even with the presence of some noise, it's still a quite useful service and it seems silly to act like it's "over."

Re:Amazon Is Complicit in Online Sales of Counterfeit Goods:... by nordsieck on Saturday June 16, 2018 @04:24PM (#17329192)
> Again, if you know what you're doing, it's pretty easy to tell tell the difference. ... The counterfeit listing is actually more convincing than most, but wait, "sold by suiningdonghanjiaju Co Ltd?" Hmm.

What you apparently don't understand is that Amazon co-mingles inventory from everyone who ships them a particular product.

It doesn't matter if you buy an "Apple USB Power Adapter" from Amazon, Apple, or Shady McCounterfeiters. You get a random sample from the same pool of goods. And that pool of goods often contains counterfeit products (in this particular case, about 90% are counterfeit).

Re:Amazon Is Complicit in Online Sales of Counterfeit Goods:... by leephillips on Saturday June 16, 2018 @01:38PM (#17328401)
What do you mean by "curtailed products"?
Re:Amazon Is Complicit in Online Sales of Counterfeit Goods:... by unreal37 on Saturday June 16, 2018 @01:42PM (#17328425)
curated.
Re:Amazon Is Complicit in Online Sales of Counterfeit Goods:... by astura on Saturday June 16, 2018 @02:03PM (#17328546)
Yes, thank you, autocomplete fail.

Basically, Best Buy doesn't just sell anything JoeBlow45 who created their account yesterday decides to dump on their site, they have real suppliers and they know what they are selling.

And the listings don't end up like this: https://www.amazon.com/Paper-Illusions-Hearthstone-Colored-W... it's a listing for wallpaper but the pictures are for a Grateful Dead plush and another picture is a Grateful Dead poster.

Re:Amazon Is Complicit in Online Sales of Counterfeit Goods:... by jjeaff on Saturday June 16, 2018 @09:56PM (#17330532)
>Best Buy doesn't just sell anything JoeBlow45 who created their account yesterday

You might be surprised. Many big box sellers now include third party listings from anyone and everyone. I believe Best Buy discontinued this last year or so. But many still do. Newegg, Walmart, Sears, to name a few.

Re:Amazon Is Complicit in Online Sales of Counterfeit Goods:... by astura on Sunday June 17, 2018 @12:51AM (#17330928)
I agree that I don't like seeing marketplace sellers on Walmart, etc. either. However, right now it's not a problem because they are clearly marked and easily filtered out as well as few and far between.