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Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by biastoact on Friday June 15, 2018 @01:30PM (#17321674)
It is not unlike Prime Video and Prime Music (among others). When you run a membership program you create offers that increase the perceived value of the membership and engagement with your ecosystem. Similar is Costco gas, people wouldn’t drive out of their way for the discount if they didn’t already pay the membership. And while you are there you might as well pick up four times the bread you need, more milk than you consume in a week, a new camera (that was probably cheaper online), and a hot dog on your way out. Getting the value out of that $100 membership leads people to consume far more than they normally would.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by thecosas on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:22PM (#17322178)
A few things you can do at Costco without a membership:

  * Eat at the food court
  * Buy alcohol (in certain states, see below)
  * Get an eye exam
  * Get your hearing checked
  * Fill prescriptions at the pharmacy
States where you can buy alcohol w/o a membership:

  * Arizona
  * California
  * Connecticut
  * Delaware
  * Hawaii
  * Indiana
  * Massachusetts
  * Michigan
  * Minnesota
  * New York
  * Texas
  * Vermont
P.S. Looking for a better source, but here's a general list: https://thekrazycouponlady.com/tips/money/6-things-you-can-d...
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by a_t48 on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:19PM (#17322700)
San Francisco's Costco does not let you into the food court.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by awad on Friday June 15, 2018 @09:26PM (#17325214)
I think I once read somewhere that they allow it if the food court is located outside
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by 1701d on Friday June 15, 2018 @01:46PM (#17321849)
Except you don't have to be a member to eat at Costco.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by dnissley on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:00PM (#17321994)
While true I don't think this is widely known, and even less widely practiced. For those who are unaware, you just need go in through the exit to avoid the card checkers and that's where the food is.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by wingspar on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:06PM (#17322044)
We have a Costco here in FL where the food court is outside, order window, soda machines, tables. Everything
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by thecosas on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:12PM (#17322089)
Same here in CA. I imagine it depends largely on the typical weather at that location.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by jiqiren on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:09PM (#17322072)
That's not true everywhere. A number of Costco's have the food court outside the building.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by firebird84 on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:30PM (#17322773)
Just tell them you're going to the pharmacy, they'll happily point you to where it is and you can then go wherever you want.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by arkades on Friday June 15, 2018 @01:47PM (#17321864)
You have to be a member, or accompanying a member, to walk in the door. The hot dogs lie beyond the checkpoint.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by intopieces on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:06PM (#17322048)
Neither being a member or being accompanied by a member is required to walk in the door. You don't even need to be a member to shop there provided you have a Costco Cash Card [0]. As well, there are at least a few Costcos where the concession stand is outside [1]

[0]https://www.costco.com/Costco-Cash-Card.product.10024438.htm... [1]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Costco+Wholesale/@37.25296...

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by myself248 on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:02PM (#17322548)
So if I give my Costco-member friend $100 and ask her to buy me four $25 Costco Cash cards, would that let me make four trips without buying my own membership? That seems like all I'd need in a year...
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by intopieces on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:09PM (#17322622)
This is accurate. You need only to have a costco cash card to get the Costco price on the goods in store. That cash card does not need to encompass the entire price of the transaction, as your credit card can make up the rest.

I've heard this touted as a "hack" but this makes absolute economic sense for Costco -- they get an advance on your purchase and get you into the store to potentially see the value in signing up.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by myself248 on Friday June 15, 2018 @05:08PM (#17323564)
Oh, I absolutely intended to buy more than $25 of stuff each visit!

I just didn't imagine they'd let me say "Um, yeah, put $1 on my Costco Cash card, and the other $399 on my Visa".

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by abawany on Friday June 15, 2018 @07:22PM (#17324587)
I tried that for a while in lieu of membership. Their employees certainly gave me a hard time over this: stink eye, calling the manager, chiding me for doing this loudly and openly, etc.

Thus, while it is possible, their devout employees don't like it and go out of their way to make one feel like a leper for not being a member.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by xythian on Friday June 15, 2018 @01:59PM (#17321983)
You do not need to be a member to access the food court, alcohol sales, or pharmacy. You will need to stop at member services and wait in line to get a temporary pass. It's a deliberate hassle, but by various laws Costco can't stop you from accessing those services.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by passthefist on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:02PM (#17322010)
You can definitely get alcohol w/o a membership. I think it might be a state-by-state thing, but in some states it’s illegal to require a membership for alcohol purchases, so you can buy alcohol even if you don’t have a Costco membership.

The food court I'm not as sure about, but in both cases I've walked into a Costco with no membership and they were fine with it.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by RangerScience on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:01PM (#17321997)
Almost every Costco I've been to, the food vending is a window on the outside of the building (so before the checkpoint).

And, at the ones where the food vending is on the inside, it's on the "paid" side of the cash registers. You can get to this area just by claiming you're "going to member services", since that's also on that side, and it's where you go when you forget your card (and so can't show membership at the checkpoint).

Source: Have forgotten my card a lot.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by reaperducer on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:07PM (#17322062)
* Almost every Costco I've been to, the food vending is a window on the outside of the building (so before the checkpoint).*

I've never seen a Costco with the food vending in a window on the outside of the building. I've always seen it against the wall after the checkout. Which is also after the checkpoint.

I think a window on the outside of the building only works in moderate climates. I don't see it working in Phoenix or Minneapolis.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by jiqiren on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:12PM (#17322091)
Many Southern California and Florida locations have the entire Costco food-court outside.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by ballenf on Friday June 15, 2018 @01:57PM (#17321970)
The membership checkers are there to give members the feeling of exclusivity and belonging. They do not generally turn people away and will accept basically any reason from "meeting someone" to no response at all, in my experience. But I haven't been to more than half dozen Costco's, so can't speak broadly.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by raisedbyninjas on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:05PM (#17322034)
I think their primary purpose is to ensure that nobody who isn't a member or forgot their membership card gets in the checkout line and slows it down.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by ceejayoz on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:21PM (#17322167)
I suspect "where are you going with that $2000 TV?" plays a role, too.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by basch on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:41PM (#17322353)
You can walk in the exit, and straight to the food court.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by jerf on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:00PM (#17321990)
I'm only consuming "far more than I normally would" if I'm routinely throwing away things I bought from CostCo, unconsumed.

I don't. Nor does anyone else I know.

It's just consumption moved around in time.

I know, I know, it may be aesthetically distasteful to you to see people walking out with 36 rolls of toilet paper instead of six. It may be hard not to sneer at the poor people trapped on the capitalist treadmill.

But you should get over it, because in most ways you're better off when people shop at CostCo, because buying that way and storing things at home for a time is much more packaging and environmentally efficient that packing things into little bundles to be bought every day. And buying like that also minimizes the little bites being taken out by middlemen who are doing the packaging into little bundles. And a car trip taken to CostCo that fills the car is more efficient than lots of little trips to the grocery store.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by mmt on Friday June 15, 2018 @04:50PM (#17323446)
> And a car trip

I suspect this is the real source of the hostility, rather than aesthetics: Costco represents, in general, a larger-land-footprint, car-dependent, suburban (or even semi-rural) lifestyle.

There's likely something of a false dichotomy at work here, as well, in that there could be Costco-compatible dense-city living, but that doesn't seem to be true currently.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by nightski on Friday June 15, 2018 @06:32PM (#17324235)
I shop at Costco regularly (once every two weeks at least, sometimes weekly). Yes I gasp drive a car. But I put less than 3k miles on my car a year since I work from home. Maybe shopping at Costco isn't the problem for most people. It's working in an office.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by mmt on Friday June 15, 2018 @07:49PM (#17324757)
To clarify, my point wasn't about the driving itself, but rather, what both driving and Costco (and bulk purchases in general) represent, which is incompatible with a walkable, high-density city.

I'm confident some people also object to the car use itself, but that's way too general a topic.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by emodendroket on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:38PM (#17322858)
I mean, I agree, in the sense that I also like to buy in bulk and save a lot on things I use a lot this way. But it is true that a membership makes people shop at a store more to "get their money's worth" for the membership.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by gowld on Friday June 15, 2018 @01:47PM (#17321865)
Your examples don't makes sense, as bread and milk (which Costco sells as multi-packs) keep fine in storage. Buying perishables and junk food would be a better example.

Costco electronics prices are competitive and have the best return policy and practice in the industry.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by mywittyname on Friday June 15, 2018 @01:53PM (#17321925)
Bread and milk are considered by most people to be perishable -- they go bad within a few weeks of purchase.

Non-perishable goods are canned or sealed items that can be kept for years in cool, dark, dry places.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by Retric on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:32PM (#17322790)
Frozen bread lasts for ~6 months to a 1 year. Which is hardly going to be an issue for most people.

Unopened milk does not last nearly as long. Still, it can last for ~3 weeks at home depending on how it's preserved, how old is was when you got it, and if you keep your fridge cold enough. Which again should be plenty if you actually use milk.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by emodendroket on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:41PM (#17322879)
Most people don't freeze bread and I think most people have probably experienced not finishing a carton of milk fast enough or having bread go moldy on them.

Really the trick to bulk buying (besides liberal use of your freezer) is only bulk-buying things you actually use a lot of. I'll buy tomatoes at Costco because I'll eat them but I don't eat nearly enough apples for buying a massive thing of apples to make sense.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by jeremyt on Friday June 15, 2018 @01:51PM (#17321902)
In what world does milk "keep fine in storage"?
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by implements on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:31PM (#17322263)
Fresh whole milk freezes ok, and only takes a few days to thaw out in a fridge. Same with bread, btw.

(To be fair, I think I'm the only person I know who does this)

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by thx11389793 on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:57PM (#17322497)
I've known people to freeze bagels. Apparently they toast more or less equivalently compared to bagels stored above freezing.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by emodendroket on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:45PM (#17322907)
Yeah, you can't tell the difference. You can even microwave them for 30 seconds instead of slowly defrosting and if you're toasting you can't really tell the difference.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by firebird84 on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:32PM (#17322789)
This is correct. I don't eat enough bread (or bagels) to warrant buying entire loaves at a time, even, and they will grow mold before I can eat them. Freezing them works great for me and prevents mold.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by ouid on Friday June 15, 2018 @01:52PM (#17321918)
The modern world. Milk no longer goes bad quickly.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by reaperducer on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:14PM (#17322106)
I wouldn't call UHT milk common. According to Wikipedia[0], it's less than 10% in Denmark, Greece, Norway, Finland, Sweden, Singapore and the U.K.

It seems the only places where it's "common" are Italy, Turkey, Switzerland, Germany, Czech Republic, Brazil, Portugal, Spain, France, and Belgium.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-temperature_process...

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by reaperducer on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:10PM (#17322078)
I guess it depends on the definition of "quickly" and also where you live.

In some cities I've lived, the expiration date of milk was often two or three weeks out. In other cities, it was 10 days maximum.

I think it's because dairies (and cows) are not equally plentiful in every part of the country.

One thing I have noticed is that in the places where regular milk expires in 10 days, the organic milk (which one family member drinks) doesn't expire for a month or more.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by Avshalom on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:35PM (#17322826)
Sell by dates are basically a fiction. https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety...

only limitation is: infant formula and false advertising (defined in https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/9/317.8 )

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by fencepost on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:25PM (#17322214)
Sell by dates for eggs and milk vary by state in many cases, for milk I believe Montana has the strictest one (10-12 days after pasteurization) but I've seen references to at least 20 states having their own regulations.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by aaronblohowiak on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:13PM (#17322096)
UHT pasteurization
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by dsjoerg on Friday June 15, 2018 @02:08PM (#17322067)
Maybe neither you nor grandparent know about UHT treatment of milk, and how it's common outside America and uncommon inside.
Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by chillwaves on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:51PM (#17322957)
Seems to be at every single grocery store I have ever shopped in for the past at least 5 years.

Not every milk is UHT but every grocery store offers it.

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by mmt on Friday June 15, 2018 @04:54PM (#17323474)
> Not every milk is UHT but every grocery store offers it.

But what about Costco (or other bulk-only sources), which is, really, the whole point of the thread (and original comment)?

Re:The Enduring Enigma of Costco's $1.50 Hot Dog and Soda Combo by SirYandi on Friday June 15, 2018 @03:47PM (#17322928)
Interesting re their return policy, could you expand on that?