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Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by amorphid on Thursday June 14, 2018 @12:56PM (#17313112)
In Australia, fiber-to-the-home vs. fiber-to-the-node has been a fairly political issue about which I knew very little, so I looked it up. [1] After reading about parent comment and the miles of unused fiber, I wondered what the difference between fiber near my home vs fiber in my home would be, and found some good info. [2]

[1l http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-13/federal-election-nb...

[2] https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/whats-difference-fttc-fttp-car...

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Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by gnopgnip on Thursday June 14, 2018 @01:57PM (#17313756)
There is new tech like g.fast that enables gigabit speeds over copper wire like an existing phone line for short distances.
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Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by AboutTheWhisles on Thursday June 14, 2018 @08:29PM (#17316529)
"First released in October 2013, and updated several times since, the DOCSIS 3.1 suite of specifications support capacities of up to 10 Gbit/s downstream and 1 Gbit/s upstream"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS

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Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by amorphid on Thursday June 14, 2018 @02:16PM (#17313981)
I wonder what speeds would be achievable over the ancient copper wire in my building.
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Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by philjohn on Thursday June 14, 2018 @03:35PM (#17314673)
Depends. If it's 50+ years old it'll be fine, sure, some of the joints might not be, but that's not awful to fix.

Then Copper prices went up massively for a while and thinner guage twister pair went in at best, and Aluminium was used at worst.

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Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by philjohn on Thursday June 14, 2018 @03:38PM (#17314688)
The problem is that FTTP/H has a much larger up front cost because of having to clear out potentially blocked ducts if underground, and the labour intensive work that needs to be done at the property.
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Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by AboutTheWhisles on Thursday June 14, 2018 @08:36PM (#17316566)
How is it different from cable? One person can dig a trench and lay cable through a large yard in about two hours. This is essentially how cable tv and internet are hooked up.
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Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by patmorgan23 on Thursday June 14, 2018 @11:19PM (#17317292)
Most places already have cable laid, change the equipment at the end is much easier than laying new lines
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Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by AboutTheWhisles on Friday June 15, 2018 @01:54PM (#17321934)
Yes, but the parent was implying that fiber is somehow has more difficult to lay than regular coax.
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