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Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by davidw on Thursday June 14, 2018 @12:15PM (#17312722)
It's a very nice place. Unfortunately, they are egregiously failing to provide enough housing at reasonable prices, so they copied that bad aspect of silicon valley as well as some of the good.
Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by yahyaheee on Thursday June 14, 2018 @12:36PM (#17312914)
can't build up, can't build out. Its a tricky problem, but we don't want to use our open spaces for development. The surrounding areas are reasonable
Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by sanderjd on Thursday June 14, 2018 @12:52PM (#17313080)
I think the "can't build out" thing is over-emphasized. We can't build out only in the relatively skinny band of open space around town. But there is lots of space that is / can be built on outside that band, ie. Louisville, Superior, northwest Arvada (Candelas), Gunbarrel, Niwot, Longmont. None of thee places are very far from Boulder. What we need is better public transportation. Most people drive into town, so there is lots traffic and parking is hard, which makes people want to live in town to avoid that.
Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by yahyaheee on Thursday June 14, 2018 @01:03PM (#17313174)
yeah the transportation could definitely use some help
Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by davidw on Thursday June 14, 2018 @12:44PM (#17313003)
You can grow up, in, out, or grow the prices. Boulder has chosen the latter, meaning that more and more people drive into the town to work. Big win for the environment, there...
Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by oh_sigh on Thursday June 14, 2018 @01:25PM (#17313401)
We were promised light rail, and even raised taxes to build it out, and then the government decided to give us a toll lane on a highway(managed by an australian company) and a bus route as a compromise. Front rangers talk a lot about environmental stewardship but from their actions I don't believe they really care about it.
Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by yahyaheee on Thursday June 14, 2018 @05:36PM (#17315622)
amen to that
Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by yahyaheee on Thursday June 14, 2018 @01:00PM (#17313150)
unfortunately you can grow up, because of the view and its prohibited. You could potentially grow in and there have been a lot of condos built in recent years, but part of what makes boulder nice is that its not overdeveloped. Some people would prefer to pay a premium to keep it that way.
Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by davidw on Thursday June 14, 2018 @01:03PM (#17313175)
> unfortunately you can't grow up, because of the view and its prohibited

Because they don't want to is the reason.

As a consequence, people like teachers, firefighters, police, nurses and so on can no longer afford it and must commute in to serve the landed gentry.

Yuck.

Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by yahyaheee on Thursday June 14, 2018 @01:13PM (#17313259)
As a native to boulder I don't want them to. Nothing predicates you should have to live in boulder, or that the town has to be built up. Thats just a temporary solution, boulder has worked hard to keep the town nice and I appreciate that. They have done a lot of work to provide low income housing but it's a difficult task and we should continue to work on this. The workforce should be negotiating their salaries to compensate, and we should improve transportation for the surrounding areas.
Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by driverdan on Thursday June 14, 2018 @02:02PM (#17313820)
Stop being a NIMBY and let the market work. If the market wants to build up let it. There will still be plenty of areas with views, you'll just have to pay more.
Re:Boulder moves to fund citywide fiber buildout through debt by yahyaheee on Thursday June 14, 2018 @02:20PM (#17314027)
If you want to live that way check out Denver, sounds more up your alley