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Re:AT&T Cleared by Judge to Buy Time Warner by paulcole on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @06:49PM (#17298791)
> And this one has the inherent conflicts of interest you get when a distributor buys out a producer.

I'm not sure I understand the conflicts. Isn't Netflix essentially doing the same thing? Consolidating production and distribution?

Re:AT&T Cleared by Judge to Buy Time Warner by paidleaf on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @07:31AM (#17302095)
Netflix isn't your ISP. Netflix doesn't control the means of delivery/distribution. They rely on Verizon, Comcast, AT&T, etc to deliver their data.

Netflix can't just decide that they don't want to compete with Hulu and therefore throttle or block Hulu from their customers.

We know that controlling the means of production and the means of distribution is highly anti-competitive. All you have to do is look at rockefeller and standard oil in the 1800s. Rockefeller bought or threatened his way into controlling the railroads which allowed him to put most of his competitors out of business or forced them to sell to Standard Oil. Controlling the means of delivery allowed rockefeller to monopolize the oil industry in the US.

With the repeal of net neutrality, we are getting to the point where verizon, comcast, at&t, etc can be their own little "internet". And this really hampers future entrepreneurs. If you wanted to start a netflix, youtube or twitch today, but you can't rely on verizon, comcast, at&t, etc to give you fair access to their network, then why bother and who will invest in your company?

But this is the overall direction of the internet and social media the past few years. Less freedom, less openness and a move towards more of a corporate tv/news format.

Re:AT&T Cleared by Judge to Buy Time Warner by jimmy1 on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @09:15AM (#17302711)
> But this is the overall direction of the internet and social media the past few years. Less freedom, less openness and a move towards more of a corporate tv/news format.

So when are we nerds getting together to make a new internet?

Re:AT&T Cleared by Judge to Buy Time Warner by jandrese on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @11:28AM (#17304000)
Internet2[1] has been around for years, but it's very restrictive and you aren't invited.

[1] https://www.internet2.edu/

Re:AT&T Cleared by Judge to Buy Time Warner by icebraining on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @07:12PM (#17298919)
Yes, and there are conflicts of interest, as Netflix will push their own stuff over their competitors'. The major difference is that ISPs have a much stronger control of their distribution market, which they can use to gain an advantage on the production market (what's usually called "abuse of monopoly power").
Re:AT&T Cleared by Judge to Buy Time Warner by jandrese on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @06:58PM (#17298852)
Netflix is your ISP?
Re:AT&T Cleared by Judge to Buy Time Warner by mattnewton on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @07:18PM (#17298950)
I don’t think time warner is an isp anymore
Re:AT&T Cleared by Judge to Buy Time Warner by jtgeibel on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @07:30PM (#17299005)
But AT&T certainly is, as would be the combined company.
Re:AT&T Cleared by Judge to Buy Time Warner by saghm on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @08:04PM (#17299175)
Time Warner is definitely still an ISP where I live (NYC)

EDIT: Never mind, I was unaware of the split between the cable and internet businesses. (I still agree with the sibling comments that this isn't hugely important given that AT&T is still an ISP)

Re:AT&T Cleared by Judge to Buy Time Warner by s2g on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @08:11PM (#17299211)
AT&T is a major telecom and provider of mobile internet access.
Re:AT&T Cleared by Judge to Buy Time Warner by seanp2k2 on Wednesday June 13, 2018 @12:39AM (#17300299)
The difference is that I have one choice of ISP and many choices of over-the-top content, none of which can e.g. restrict my ability to access things unrelated to their service as an ISP can. It's apples v oranges.
Re:AT&T Cleared by Judge to Buy Time Warner by jonreem on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @07:30PM (#17299004)
Under this logic I think so, it would be the same problem.