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Re:Ask HN: Pros and cons of working at a startup in 2018? by gaius on Monday June 11, 2018 @05:28PM (#17288760)
Because founders take at least 100x the risk of an early employee, and 100x the personal risk and commitment.

Absolute rubbish. Considering the opportunity cost, lost benefits and so on compared to a BigCo an early stage employee is easily going to be 6-figures in, and probably working 80+ hours a week. All so the founders can toss them a few scraps from the feast.

Meaningful equity participation or big-company pay and benefits. Anything else is pure exploitation and the founders and VCs know it.

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Re:Ask HN: Pros and cons of working at a startup in 2018? by manigandham on Monday June 11, 2018 @05:57PM (#17288973)
What's rubbish is thinking that people don't have personal responsibility. If someone who can "easily" get 6-figures and the luxurious benefits of a BigCo decide to work for a startup instead, then that's their choice and there's no moral judgement needed.
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Re:Ask HN: Pros and cons of working at a startup in 2018? by IggleSniggle on Monday June 11, 2018 @07:39PM (#17289555)
Partial agree. Folks also shoulder responsibility for knowingly scamming young folk that don’t know any better yet.
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Re:Ask HN: Pros and cons of working at a startup in 2018? by manigandham on Monday June 11, 2018 @08:29PM (#17289795)
It's not a scam...

This isn't an elaborate con involving lies and deceit, it's a pretty clear setup and is offered in writing before you start which you have to accept. There are 1000s of articles now about working in startups and how equity works, along with fair ratios. The research is minutes away and is no different than checking the paperwork for any other part of your employment.

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Re:Ask HN: Pros and cons of working at a startup in 2018? by gaius on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @02:08AM (#17291060)
that's their choice and there's no moral judgement needed

Sure. And when you hear VC backed companies whining that hiring is soooooo hard, now you know why.

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Re:Ask HN: Pros and cons of working at a startup in 2018? by dang on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @03:53AM (#17291486)
Could you please stop posting low-substance, high-acid comments to Hacker News? You've done it a ton, it damages the site, and we've asked you repeatedly not to. Plenty of people are arguing civilly and substantively for views similar to yours in this thread. It's not hard!

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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