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Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by snissn on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:00AM (#17284792)
hasn't Tmobile been offering this for years?
Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by excalibur on Monday June 11, 2018 @11:28AM (#17285082)
Yes, they have. The rationale being that they were giving their customers something extra by introducing a select group of services that were exempt from pre-existing data caps. I'm sure a lawyer could argue that it was all perfectly legal, but it nonetheless looks like they've been violating net neutrality in spirit for quite some time.
Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by chipotle_coyote on Monday June 11, 2018 @12:44PM (#17285927)
AFAIK, cell companies were never under the "net neutrality" regulations, which is something that's often not made as clear as it probably should be in these discussions. Also, T-Mobile is doing is called "zero rating" in industry parlance, and I think you're correct that zero rating would have been legal under net neutrality regulation even if it had applied.
Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by acdha on Monday June 11, 2018 @12:05PM (#17285435)
What they’ve done is somewhat different, offering exemptions from the normal metered service for certain classes of activity like music streaming.

The base rate hasn’t changed and the category exemptions were open to anyone in a market rather than being negotiated behind the scenes.

I’m expecting that’s going to look really good compared to what we’re about to see.

Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by madeofpalk on Monday June 11, 2018 @12:39PM (#17285849)
Actually, FCC has chimed in on this 'zero rating' https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/01/12/new_fcc_guidelines_...

FCC liked what T-Mobile was doing with Binge on because it didn't favour particular services or alter consumer choice significantly. It was fair and open or any website to participate in

> When it comes to T‑Mobile US Binge On services, FCC staff decided that the service "did not compel edge providers or consumers to participate in Binge On, and did not charge them anything if they opt to do so" – and therefore was legit.

> However, AT&T's Sponsored Data program "presents competitive problems" because it "imposes hefty per-gigabyte charges on unaffiliated third parties for use of Sponsored Data" – charges that "far exceed the costs AT&T incurs in providing the sponsored data service."

Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by bkor on Monday June 11, 2018 @03:05PM (#17287415)
> FCC liked what T-Mobile was doing with Binge on because it didn't favour particular services or alter consumer choice significantly. It was fair and open or any website to participate in

In Netherlands T-Mobile has a unlimited music streaming offering. To participate, a contract needs to be signed. Plus the organization/company signing such an offer needs to sign a paid support contract.

Meaning: this option within Netherlands is not free, not fair, not open. Apple refused to join that scheme in the Netherlands. Due to that new information there's going to be a new legal case about it.

Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by pofilat on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @02:25PM (#17296309)
Binge On biases video over gaming and apps and videochat. That alters consumer choice significantly.
Re:The Repeal of Net Neutrality Is Official by duxup on Monday June 11, 2018 @12:10PM (#17285493)
I belive cell companies where either entirely, or partly exempt from net neutrality.