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Re:Alternatives to Google Products by izacus on Sunday June 10, 2018 @11:53PM (#17281633)
Apple iCloud privacy policy mirrors Google's. You gain absolutely nothing if you upload your contacts, photos and other data to iCloud. Apple also regularly gives iCloud data dumps to US government (they approved and delivered data in about 80% of US Government requests in 2017: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/05/25/apple-second-2017-trans... )

(The exceptions here are iMessage and phone backups which are E2E encrypted.)

Re:Alternatives to Google Products by alsetmusic on Monday June 11, 2018 @01:01AM (#17281947)
> You gain absolutely nothing if you upload your contacts, photos and other data to iCloud.

This seems so deliberately wrong that I shouldn’t respond, but I will. Quick and easy synchronization of contacts, calendars, and photos are all features that I appreciate. What’s more, my fearful-of-technology brother tells me how useful they are to him. He mentioned photo sync as a benefit only a few days ago.

Re:Alternatives to Google Products by unethical_ban on Monday June 11, 2018 @02:19AM (#17282211)
The OP was referring to iCloud vs. Google. Not the features of sync in general.
Re:Alternatives to Google Products by cyphunk on Tuesday June 12, 2018 @05:37PM (#17298281)
By "gain" they meant privacy. You gain no privacy... you lose privacy when using iCloud and Apple Calendar
Re:Alternatives to Google Products by ariwilson on Monday June 11, 2018 @01:34AM (#17282058)
"Gain nothing" ... over Google's superior features.
Re:Alternatives to Google Products by nemothekid on Monday June 11, 2018 @01:36AM (#17282065)
You mentioned the exceptions - both of which didn't happen 5 years ago. Is it crazy to believe that we may have Tarnsap-like storage from Apple in a few years.

Side note: I don't think Apple will ever encrypt iCloud iPhone backups because that would make it difficult to use them (how would you restore an iPhone backup to a new device if your old one was incinerated? Your private key would be gone)

Re:Alternatives to Google Products by oarsinsync on Monday June 11, 2018 @01:47AM (#17282116)
Best I can tell, they already encrypt a whole load more and are ready to encrypt everything. When setting up a new iPhone, I’m asked to enter my Apple ID, password, approve via an existing device, provide 2FA and then provide the PIN or password of that existing device. After all that, access is granted. To me, this suggests they’re already encrypting in such a way that while it may be brute force-able, it’s unlikely to be data they can read by default.