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Re:Why emergency braking systems sometimes hit parked cars a... by amelius on Saturday June 09, 2018 @06:32PM (#17275385)
> Insurance companies which have hard data will lower your rates if your car has autopilot.

That's probably because Tesla is liable. And it could be that at this point they don't mind operating at a loss in this area.

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Re:Why emergency braking systems sometimes hit parked cars a... by ghaff on Sunday June 10, 2018 @10:23AM (#17278239)
Really? Last I saw, Tesla was blaming the driver. Their ostensible position (as well as other companies selling assistive systems) is that the driver has to remain alert and in control. They're a bit hypocritical about this but they certainly don't seem to be accepting liability.

It will be an interesting question once systems are on the road that claim to be fully autonomous--and no one's sure how this will work yet. If I'm sitting in a car that's sold (and regulated) as completely hands off I'm certainly not going to accept liability if it does something dumb and kills someone.

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Re:Why emergency braking systems sometimes hit parked cars a... by ams6110 on Saturday June 09, 2018 @11:09PM (#17276220)
Where I live, the owner of the car is legally liable for damage that it does. Not the manufacturer, and not the driver.
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Re:Why emergency braking systems sometimes hit parked cars a... by amelius on Sunday June 10, 2018 @03:18AM (#17277000)
Unless the car was on autopilot. And the car records this fact in its black box.
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Re:Why emergency braking systems sometimes hit parked cars a... by Retric on Saturday June 09, 2018 @08:23PM (#17275746)
don't mind operating at a loss

That's ridiculous, they might base this on some other benifit such as type of owner, but the industry is not just going to subsidize 100,000+ plus people. I am not saying it's fool proof, but your bias is showing.

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Re:Why emergency braking systems sometimes hit parked cars a... by amelius on Sunday June 10, 2018 @03:20AM (#17277007)
I mean Tesla doesn't mind operating at a loss, as they are trying to push autopilot to the market.

By the way, the black box recorder in a Tesla might also contribute to the discount given by insurers.

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Re:Why emergency braking systems sometimes hit parked cars a... by Retric on Sunday June 10, 2018 @01:02PM (#17278974)
Tesla operating at a loss would have zero impact on insurance companies and they in no way are talking on that burden.
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