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Re:Apple will attempt to jam Facebook's web-tracking tools by parthdesai on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @11:47AM (#17238796)
Apple alway get a bit leeway on HN.

Apple is talking the talk about privacy where it's favourable to them. Is it actually walking the walk when it actually hurts them? That's when you know if a company if serious about privacy or it's just another marketing strategy.

Re:Apple will attempt to jam Facebook's web-tracking tools by macintux on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @01:14PM (#17239801)
Well, they took a politically- and PR-unfriendly stance when suggestions were made that they should provide an iOS version to the the federal government that allowed a passcode bypass because terrorists.

Again, leaving China would not help their users, but it would be a huge blow to their finances today and in the future. Is martyrdom a good play for a business and its stockholders?

Re:Apple will attempt to jam Facebook's web-tracking tools by parthdesai on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @03:36PM (#17241262)
>Again, leaving China would not help their users, but it would be a huge blow to their finances today and in the future. Is martyrdom a good play for a business and its stockholders?

It absolutely will. Apple users will know for sure that Apple respects privacy and will not budge under pressure, no matter what. Point is, Apple talks about being all about user's privacy till it hurts their finances. Thus, it talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

Google famously even walked away from China at one point of time.

Re:Apple will attempt to jam Facebook's web-tracking tools by rickycook on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @06:52PM (#17242807)
you could easily make the argument that in china, the govt is a given that you have to bow to. if apple believes (and i’m certain they do) that users are more protected from third party actors, then you could definitely argue that apple thought users are better off than they were before

it’s hugely grey; you can’t just say that apple only has principals when it suits them. china is a VERY complicated place, morally