Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by inetknght on Monday June 04, 2018 @09:39AM
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Can't view with javascript disabled. !@#$ that.
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Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by aerovistae on Monday June 04, 2018 @09:48AM
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Not to be rude, but honestly can you view anything with JavaScript disabled anymore? I don’t exactly blame the website.
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by blub on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:51AM
(#17229078)
A very large amount of websites can be used without JS.
Microsoft have stopped giving a damn a long time ago, and require JS from a dozen domains just to display a bunch of text documentation.
They're definitely worse than your average JS-only website.
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by samastur on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:37AM
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This website, as one example.
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by bo1024 on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:52AM
(#17229100)
If you're genuinely curious, then I highly encourage you to try it out. For me, I can view almost everything I want and am much happier with javascript disabled by default and enabled only when needed.
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by aerovistae on Monday June 04, 2018 @10:25PM
(#17234475)
Does it help you bypass paywalls? Asking for a friend.
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by bo1024 on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @12:47AM
(#17235070)
Don't know, kinda doubt it though.
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by amiga-workbench on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:55AM
(#17229143)
Why on earth should you give every document you open arbitrary code execution rights?
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by dingo_bat on Monday June 04, 2018 @09:52AM
(#17227800)
It'd be a little hard to show a PPT without some js viewer.
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by realusername on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:15AM
(#17228535)
How so? the arrows could just point to the next page, there's zero interactivity on that PPT.
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by dmitrygr on Monday June 04, 2018 @10:04AM
(#17227850)
If only we could invent a way to show static documents reliably. We could call it, say, a Portable Document Format. And we could have a reader for it that anyone could install and see said document. Hm, what a world that would be.
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by engi_nerd on Monday June 04, 2018 @10:19AM
(#17227953)
If only PDFs were purely static
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by quadrangle on Monday June 04, 2018 @02:06PM
(#17230393)
or maybe some sort of "markup" that merely needs to be rendered without running any accessory program code?
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by SmellyGeekBoy on Monday June 04, 2018 @10:52AM
(#17228268)
PDF is a proprietary format. Is it really considered better than JS?
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by blub on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:54AM
(#17229117)
PDF is an ISO standard, it's not proprietary.
And yes, it's better than whatever JS is cobbled together for presentations, of course, it was designed for documents, not blinking things on the screen :)
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by vram22 on Monday June 04, 2018 @07:10PM
(#17233471)
Yes. It became an ISO standard (ISO 32000) in 2008:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF#History_and_standardizatio...
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by computerfriend on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:55AM
(#17229128)
That hasn't been the case for many years.
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by bo1024 on Monday June 04, 2018 @11:50AM
(#17229061)
I generally agree with you. But just so you know, in this case if you enable a few scripts, a download button appears and you can read the file in libreoffice or whatever you use.
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by inetknght on Monday June 04, 2018 @12:10PM
(#17229286)
Yup. It's also just a redirect to a downloadable powerpoint with the original URL embedded in the linked URL. No need to enable scripts at all. Just Microsoft doing their Micro!@#$ thing.
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by developerdanny on Monday June 04, 2018 @10:17AM
(#17227934)
How can you expect a webapp to work with javascript disabled?
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by rimliu on Monday June 04, 2018 @10:55AM
(#17228300)
Once upon the time there was a thing called server side rendering.
Re:Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and G...
by developerdanny on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @06:07AM
(#17236277)
Good point.