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Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by drdrey on Sunday June 03, 2018 @09:59PM (#17223925)
I think there is more concern about abductions than broken bones. I also used to roam free on my bike when I was a kid, but am guilty of airdropping my kid to activities.
Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by masonic on Monday June 04, 2018 @02:37AM (#17225172)
Like school shootings, stranger abductions occur at a much lower rate than a generation ago but are far more hyped by the media now.
Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by prawn on Monday June 04, 2018 @04:25AM (#17225648)
I imagine the thinking is not that it's more or less likely, but just that it's possible. When you have something that is infinitely valuable to you, even slight risk is a factor.

Historically, someone might've had 5-10 children and it acted as a form of redundancy. I think that feeling has changed significantly!

Conversely, I think there is a greater emphasis on extra-curricular activities now. These days, there is a feeling that you're selling your kid short or failing to set them up well if you don't have them enrolled in swimming lessons from maybe two years of age, in dance or sports or kinder-gym classes around 3-5 years of age, and then in after-school sports programs once they start school.

Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by ethbro on Monday June 04, 2018 @08:57AM (#17227255)
I don't think that's fairly explained by more children -> fewer children.

Something else had to have happened.

I'd hazard that on the whole Americans are less tolerant of risk than they were 60 years ago.

As an explanation, I'd tenuously tie it to a decrease in "real world physics" employment (e.g. farming, manufacturing). When 50% of the population works in farming (circa 1870), they have one way of evaluating risk and human capabilities. When that number drops to 2%, it's easy to forget how robust humans are.

Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by prawn on Monday June 04, 2018 @10:08PM (#17234414)
Could well be part of it.

Obviously, we're increasingly aware of the risks (usually without any appreciation of the odds). Previously, you heard through close circles. Now, by the time you're a parent, you've heard of hundreds of ways your child might die through news, movies, etc.

I'm a parent of three, and I actively work to minimise risk amongst my kids where I think it's appropriate, but I'm always conscious of when I'm doing it and try to balance it.

Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by ethbro on Tuesday June 05, 2018 @08:42AM (#17237088)
Why we (as a whole) respond that way makes sense from what I know about experimental psych.

If news is optimized for clicks / views, negative stories are more engaging, and the availability heuristic is accurate (aka we assign greater importance to things we can immediately recall), then viewing profit-on-engagement news fundamentally reshapes our opinion of the world.

Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by brlewis on Monday June 04, 2018 @08:39AM (#17227127)
I think the lesson from this article is that overprotection carries its own risks.
Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by maxxxxx on Sunday June 03, 2018 @10:23PM (#17224051)
Do you really believe there are abductors everywhere?
Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by jcims on Monday June 04, 2018 @01:46AM (#17224986)
It's basically a form of terrorism.

Abductors don't need to be everywhere. They just have to be a plausible threat to affect the thought process of a parent that's deciding whether or not they are going to leave their child completely unsupervised and unattended.

Maybe if the media didn't have a fetish for covering the incidents that do happen. Maybe if there wasn't a vocal subculture that crucifies parents for leaving their children to their own devices. Maybe if the thought of having the center of your world being beaten, violated and murdered at the hands of a stranger wasn't so mind-numbingly horrific. Maybe then this trend would start going the other way.

Or not? Sure parents used to let their kids roam free. They also let them ride in the back of pickup trucks and beat their asses when they did something wrong. There's probably a healthy middle ground.

Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by isostatic on Monday June 04, 2018 @03:02AM (#17225263)
I'm not concerned about abductions - no more than being struck by lightning. I am concerned about traffic, which is far heavier than it was 30 years ago and much more likely (than abduction/lightning) to end in serious injury or death.
Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by jcims on Monday June 04, 2018 @03:20AM (#17225339)
That’s a good point, definitely a factor.
Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by drdrey on Monday June 04, 2018 @01:30AM (#17224914)
No, but it still seems like an unbearable outcome
Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by kgwgk on Monday June 04, 2018 @02:55AM (#17225237)
It seemed like a bearable outcome to your parents. ;-)
Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by test6554 on Sunday June 03, 2018 @11:39PM (#17224405)
There was an article in the newspaper a week or two ago about an attempted abduction 1/2 mile from my house. Kid was walking home from elementary school and they tried to entice her into a van.
Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by flerchin on Sunday June 03, 2018 @11:41PM (#17224416)
You may dislike it, but this behavior is a social norm.
Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by beamatronic on Monday June 04, 2018 @02:45AM (#17225196)
Yes, are you not on Nextdoor? You would be shocked.
Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by garmaine on Monday June 04, 2018 @01:35AM (#17224941)
Yes.
Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by Arbalest on Monday June 04, 2018 @02:21AM (#17225109)
This has occurred to me too. I am not sure (as I am not up to date with the stats) if abductions are up or down as a %, but if you think of it like supply and demand, the supply of easily abductable children is way down.

What I would suggest then is that, those that are left to roam are in more danger than those who aren't, because there aren't as many alternate targets. There are also fewer witnesses now too. So even if you think it is a big scare, there is less, to use a vaccination analogue (incorrectly I know), herd immunity.

Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by flukus on Monday June 04, 2018 @03:49AM (#17225465)
At the same time parents allow their kids to upload videos to youtube. A lot of would be abductors probably don't need to leave the house anymore.
Re:Why Children Aren't Behaving and What We Can Do About It by gaius on Monday June 04, 2018 @06:50AM (#17226505)
If it helps, abductions are very rarely random strangers, almost always someone already known to the child.