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Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by webkike on Friday June 01, 2018 @03:59PM (#17209524)
can you provide a citation on the potential rolling blackouts this summer?
Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by dmode on Friday June 01, 2018 @04:33PM (#17209912)
Anecdotally, I have never faced a rolling blackout in 10 years of living here. And we generate excess energy, so would be surprised if this happens.
Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by seanmcdirmid on Friday June 01, 2018 @06:38PM (#17211071)
I don’t think they’ve happened since Enron was manipulating the market, right?
Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by cjensen on Friday June 01, 2018 @07:28PM (#17211426)
Correct. Gov Davis made a series of expensive moves which rendered the manipulations ineffective. Enron was caught overextended in the wrong direction when the market shifted which directly lead to the end of Enron.
Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by dragonwriter on Friday June 01, 2018 @07:40PM (#17211514)
> Anecdotally, I have never faced a rolling blackout in 10 years of living here.

There hasn't been a Stage 3 emergency (with potential rolling blackouts) since 2001, and nothing worse than Stage 1 (and only two of those) since 2007.

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Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by mdorazio on Friday June 01, 2018 @04:15PM (#17209717)
When did users on this forum get so lazy they can't provide a citation when making potentially bogus claims? The burden of proof should always be on the person making a claim, not the person reading it.
Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by ams6110 on Friday June 01, 2018 @04:20PM (#17209765)
Rolling blackouts in the summer in California have been in the news perennially.
Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by bduerst on Friday June 01, 2018 @05:35PM (#17210600)
Yeah, isolated blackouts from a transformer explosion maybe, but not the demand-based blackouts from 2000-2001.

In fact, California is now a model for other western states on how to fix your energy grid:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/08/scorc...

Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by phil248 on Friday June 01, 2018 @07:20PM (#17211379)
Only if they've changed the definition of the word "perennially".
Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by epistasis on Friday June 01, 2018 @04:33PM (#17209916)
Doing a simple search only shows bogus data; rather than directly calling out the poster it's a bit more polite to ask them how they came to make that statement.
Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by vpribish on Friday June 01, 2018 @04:26PM (#17209849)
Here's the report from the FERC: https://www.ferc.gov/market-oversight/reports-analyses/mkt-v...

relevant parts: “In Southern California, lower-than-average hydro generation may create challenges as natural gas-fired generation, the replacement for hydro production shortfalls in past years, may be limited due to reduced gas storage capacity and local pipeline outages in the region."

"Limited operations at Aliso Canyon natural gas storage facility, plus state rule changes reducing the rate at which natural gas may be injected and withdrawn from storage, may complicate pipeline operations."

the sky isn't falling.

(the Daily Caller is a right-wing rag - Ann Coulter is a columnist, for chrissakes)

Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by bduerst on Friday June 01, 2018 @05:38PM (#17210631)
Blackouts aren't mentioned once in that document. In fact, it looks likes someones slide notes in PDF form.
Re:California approves $768M for electric vehicles by vpribish on Friday June 01, 2018 @07:54PM (#17211589)
exactly, FERC is the horse's mouth that that alarmist was posting about. The down-votes are mystifying since I provided utterly relevant data and observation about the source of the controversy. Guess its as likely to be progressives with poor reading comprehension as coal-staters upset I rained on their propaganda.