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Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by PaulHoule on Friday June 01, 2018 @02:19PM (#17208383)
Oh shit.

I run Windows. I have respect for Microsoft. A lot of people do not, however, and the sense that Microsoft is ritually unclean will drive many of them away from github. It's the best thing that's happened to BitBucket and Altassian ever. If I have a choice between MS tools and Altassian tools I will usually take MS. (Visual Source Safe really did suck, but Visual Studio is not that bad...)

Also, Microsoft acquisitions do not seem to go well. Look at Skype, LinkedIn, etc.

Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by kravlin on Friday June 01, 2018 @03:03PM (#17208849)
I'll be really honest. This would lead me to start looking at alternatives for all of my projects very quickly.

After years of watching Microsoft gobble up and assimilate companies, I'd rather jump ship before they start the extinguish portion of the cycle. Mojang is starting to leave the extend part with updates that are pushed out early for the "bedrock" version of minecraft.

Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by bearcobra on Friday June 01, 2018 @03:28PM (#17209116)
I'd be interested to learn why there's the perspective that the LinkedIn acquisition hasn't gone well. I feel like most of the stories I've read about it have been pretty positive.
Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by PaulHoule on Friday June 01, 2018 @05:30PM (#17210555)
I am sure that some journalists interview PR people from Microsoft and some self-promoters who promote the idea of promoting themselves on LinkedIn and say it is great.

I think they've gone down the road of harvesting.

I don't know if anybody is left at LinkedIn rather than life coaches, scam artists, offshore development companies, self-promoters, "business development" people, salesmen who can't sell (maybe that is what "business development" means?), recruiters that can't recruit (ex. they have been contacting you for years because you once said something about Cold Fusion and they badly need somebody to move to Nome, Alaska but they never hire remotes...), people who seem to write 20 articles about data science a day that verge on word salad (you'd think if they knew that much they could write a better neural network to generate the text.) And people who are gullible enough to think that there is some value in sending somebody an InMail or using all of those search features they sell so you can do more refined searches of life coaches, self promoters, ...

Numerous design problems with how the forums work mean that good discussions get drowned out. The same fraudulent messages get spammed that were being spammed six years ago and they won't do, don't do, or can't do anything about it

LinkedIn has closed off most access to the API and you cannot get anything interesting out of it... except all of the email addresses of your contacts so if you do that "Lion" thing you will probably need to change your email address at some point. (I think many people don't know they get so much spam because they have a LinkedIn account.)

I am on the threshold of nuking my Facebook account now that I've disconnected all of the sites that I need to log in that use Facebook. I still haven't decided if I nuke my LinkedIn account or just delete 95% of my contacts.

Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by ihsw2 on Friday June 01, 2018 @02:53PM (#17208749)
Perhaps they perceive that AWS and GCP seek to own more of the work infrastructure and they're trying to get out ahead of this.

* email/domain integration

* code hosting

* issue tracking/kanban-based project planning

* CI/CD processes

Developer tooling is evolving and there's a land-grab happening, from small workshops all the way up to global-scale enterprises.

Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by toomuchtodo on Friday June 01, 2018 @03:02PM (#17208836)
Its a smart way to increase Azure uptake. Acquire the tools needed as a dev, make your platform a first class citizen and everyone else runner up.
Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by tootie on Friday June 01, 2018 @03:02PM (#17208843)
Source Safe is ancient. TFS is their new jam and it's pretty solid. Especially if you're in the Visual Studio and Azure world.
Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by WorldMaker on Friday June 01, 2018 @03:30PM (#17209152)
TFS (or more accurately TFVC) is old news. Git is their new jam and it's pretty solid. ;)

(Not entirely a joke. The Windows team has moved to git, which is a fascinating sign of the times.)

Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by foepys on Friday June 01, 2018 @04:08PM (#17209627)
TFVC is being outphased. Microsoft doesn't want to openly say it but everything in MS' docs is pushing Git. When you have an on-prem TFS installation, the default version control for new projects is Git. Visual Studio Team Services doesn't allow to import anything into TFVC, only into Git. Visual Studio lists Git first, when you want to add version control. Visual Studio Code makes working with Git a lot easier than working with TFVC.

TFS as the development process management solution will live on as an on-prem service, but TFVC is unofficially feature-complete and in the maintenance phase.

Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by simplyinfinity on Friday June 01, 2018 @04:25PM (#17209829)
Oh yes... i especially love it when my co-worker locks 10 000 files and goes on 2 week vacation... can't merge for days

I also love it how it detects changes on unchanged files ( they look at last modified timestamp) and you can't undo the unchanged unless you install TFPT and google for a bit for the command.

I also love it how when doing merges sometimes you have 10 000 conflicts even tho the files are unchanged :)

TFVC is bad and it should die... I'm glad they took up on git... now all i have to do is train my team on how to use git :)

Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by kerng on Friday June 01, 2018 @03:44PM (#17209334)
Skype was horrible. But LinkedIn is doing very well afaik.
Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by falcon620 on Friday June 01, 2018 @03:12PM (#17208931)
> I have respect for Microsoft. A lot of people do not, however, [...]

And for perfectly rational reasons, I would add.

Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by PaulHoule on Friday June 01, 2018 @03:32PM (#17209177)
Intel has followed Apple into the rabbit hole of style over substance. I know so many people who want to do neural networks and they want to buy a mac and sorry you can't do that because Apple picked the wrong horse in the GPU race and it might be a few more years before they refresh their models.

Back in 1984 Apple released the first microcomputer that came without a software development kit. Since then it has all been about the computer using you than the other way around, a proud tradition of bay area companies such as Google, Facebook, Palantir, etc.

Re:Microsoft and GitHub have held acquisition talks by falcon620 on Friday June 01, 2018 @03:55PM (#17209473)
...wow.

Ok, that's not relevant to anything else written in this thread.