Re:Bypassing website anti-scraping protections
by heavenlyblue on Friday June 01, 2018 @10:06AM
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The site ranking algorithm is a solved problem.
The one reason Google is competitive is due to them taking advantage of the cheap labour that keeps track of ranking manipulation.
Luckily most of the search problems have nothing to do with ranking manipulation.
Re:Bypassing website anti-scraping protections
by sheeshkebab on Saturday June 02, 2018 @08:32AM
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site ranking is not a “solved problem” - google tries to solve it all the time and yet finding anything other than trending or popular stuff still takes more than several attempts (and often doesn’t even result in best results).
Re:Bypassing website anti-scraping protections
by heavenlyblue on Sunday June 03, 2018 @09:39AM
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Google has a set of contradicting requirements for the interface they've got on their website.
From one side it's along the natural-language interface from Alexa or alike; from the other side it's an interface of search for people who generally need access to information.
If Google exposed interfaces similar to Elastic Search - the search would never be an issue anymore; but it would not be easy to use by the users.
Re:Bypassing website anti-scraping protections
by jamra on Friday June 01, 2018 @08:57AM
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That’s precisely why they don’t want you cheating the hard part and just storing the results. It makes sense to me. Work on your own machine learning if you want good results.
Re:Bypassing website anti-scraping protections
by toomuchtodo on Friday June 01, 2018 @09:48AM
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There is no such thing as cheating, only staying within boundaries that don't land you in jail or sued in your own jurisdiction. If you can get an edge by using Google's own data, do so.
Bing bing bing!
Er, ughm. I mean,
Ding ding ding!
Re:Bypassing website anti-scraping protections
by anc84 on Friday June 01, 2018 @09:35AM
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You could argue that Google should work on their own knowledge database instead of learning from other people's content and/or presenting other people's content in their own frontends (shopping etc)...
Re:Bypassing website anti-scraping protections
by heavenlyblue on Friday June 01, 2018 @10:08AM
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This is what Common Crawl does: http://commoncrawl.org/. I think more people should know about it.
I don't think that making a scraper will make you competitive with Google. If you can make a site ranking algorithm that compete's with google, on the other hand, you might have a chance