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Re:Apple and Russia Face Off Over Telegram on App Store by heisenbit on Thursday May 31, 2018 @07:35AM (#17195540)
The problem with the app store is that it is a great control point. We may appreciate the safety it provides but it is a tempting target for regulators. More diversity in the ecosystem would help here.
Re:Apple and Russia Face Off Over Telegram on App Store by api on Thursday May 31, 2018 @08:26AM (#17195760)
People are only now realizing this?
Re:Apple and Russia Face Off Over Telegram on App Store by drdaeman on Thursday May 31, 2018 @08:30AM (#17195775)
They've realized this many times, only to forget the next day.
Re:Apple and Russia Face Off Over Telegram on App Store by walrus01 on Thursday May 31, 2018 @08:41AM (#17195830)
People have been saying this for years. For the 98% of non technical users, the App Store is suitable for them because its GUI is incredibly easy to use and understand. For the 2% of people who want to be able to sideload apps and to truly do things with root privilege on their android or ios phones, enforced app stores are a terrible thing.
Re:Apple and Russia Face Off Over Telegram on App Store by overcast on Thursday May 31, 2018 @09:29AM (#17196116)
2% is being incredibly generous. If I asked my entire office of 200 people what rooting their phone meant, I'd be flabbergasted if 4 of them knew what I was even saying. HN and forums like it really live in a tiny, tiny bubble of vocal minorities. I've been in this industry for twenty years, and I have absolutely no interest in monkeying around with my phone. I just want it to work.
Re:Apple and Russia Face Off Over Telegram on App Store by craftyguy on Thursday May 31, 2018 @11:46AM (#17197170)
200 people is a very small sample size, and since you all work in the same office, it's likely you all have similar backgrounds and experiences. In short, probably not representative enough of the total population (on top of being a small sample size).
Re:Apple and Russia Face Off Over Telegram on App Store by overcast on Thursday May 31, 2018 @12:03PM (#17197352)
A sample size of 200 is a 93% confidence level. The company is international, and so is the diversity. I guarantee we don't all have the same experiences and backgrounds.
Re:Apple and Russia Face Off Over Telegram on App Store by craftyguy on Thursday May 31, 2018 @01:02PM (#17197985)
Here's a counter anecdote to yours: the organization I work in has around 1000 people, I'd say about 30% easily know what 'rooting your phone' means, and at least 5% (probably closer to 10%) do it. Also an international organization here. Your sample group, like mine, is not good enough to come to any conclusions.
Re:Apple and Russia Face Off Over Telegram on App Store by overcast on Friday June 01, 2018 @09:24AM (#17205028)
Sounds like your organization is not diverse, but more of a technical one.
Re:Apple and Russia Face Off Over Telegram on App Store by saagarjha on Thursday May 31, 2018 @09:20AM (#17196053)
> For the 2% of people who want to be able to sideload apps and to truly do things with root privilege on their android or ios phones, enforced app stores are a terrible thing

Not even that: for the 2% who want to install software that hasn't annoyed {Apple, the local government}.

Re:Apple and Russia Face Off Over Telegram on App Store by jsjohnst on Thursday May 31, 2018 @11:17AM (#17196929)
In addition to what others said, side loading apps is definitively possible on both platforms without a lot of effort (and doesn’t require JBs either).