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Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t... by mcguire on Thursday May 24, 2018 @03:38PM (#17147529)
This is from the NTSB report:

"At 1.3 seconds before impact, the self-driving system determined that an emergency braking maneuver was needed to mitigate a collision (see figure 2). According to Uber, emergency braking maneuvers are not enabled while the vehicle is under computer control, to reduce the potential for erratic vehicle behavior."

I believe you are the one who has misunderstood.

Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t... by aeorgnoieang on Thursday May 24, 2018 @04:26PM (#17148072)
I think you're wrong. The Uber software controls the brakes, thru whatever means they're controlling the car. It has to – the car has to stop somehow!

"emergency braking maneuvers" refers to an additional automated (software) system for automatically applying the brakes in an emergency (that's detected by that additional system).

Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t... by JorgeGT on Thursday May 24, 2018 @06:29PM (#17149062)
No, see footnote 2 of the NTSB report:

>2 In Uber’s self-driving system, an emergency brake maneuver refers to a deceleration greater than 6.5 meters per second squared (m/s^2).

So, Uber's self-driving system has command to brake normally, but it cannot "slam" the brakes. The other system from Volvo's is deactivated when Uber's is working and cannot brake at all. Thus, since Volvo's is deactivated and Uber's won't brake if it judges that a deceleration of >6.5 m/s^2 is needed, it turns out that in automated mode, the car actually lacks the ability to trigger emergency braking at all, hoping instead that the driver will somehow notice. But in a sadistic twist, no warning is given to the driver at any moment that they need to slam the brakes.

Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t... by theossuary on Thursday May 24, 2018 @10:17PM (#17150148)
At 1.3 seconds, and with as many false-positives as it sounds like the system has, I don't think a warning would have helped.
Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t... by sandos on Friday May 25, 2018 @03:27AM (#17151388)
No, it would probably take a large part of that time to even react, especially if you are looking at a screen.

However, if the safety driver was trained to brake immediately upon warnings it could have worked quite well. But that would negate the removal of e-brake actuation.....

Re:Uber Self-Driving Car That Struck Pedestrian Wasn’t Set t... by codedokode on Friday May 25, 2018 @12:32AM (#17150626)
If the car cannot use emergency braking it could at least decelerate. It looks like some hack where the engineers just commented out the code for brakes and left decision to the driver.