Re:Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
by pvg on Sunday May 20, 2018 @11:36AM
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It's Safari-only on macOS, as far as I know. It does work with iOS apps and it doesn't work on Windows. It can't replace a password manager unless you use Safari on macOS as your primary browser.
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Re:Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
by ben_w on Sunday May 20, 2018 @01:38PM
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On macOS, Keychain Access.app (built in) can be used as a stand-alone app to generate and store passwords.
WFIW I’m using a plain text file in an encrypted disk image, because I started before I found out about Keychain Access.app, and I never actually trusted third party apps for security reasons and possibly paranoia, so I can’t compare UX quality, but it is available in a form on the desktop.
Re:Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
by pvg on Sunday May 20, 2018 @01:44PM
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The purpose of a password manager is some kind of multi-device password sharing. Plain macOS keychain doesn't do that at all. There are certainly ways to manually emulate parts of the behaviour of a password manager, whether it's with Keychain Access or post its in your wallet (or various combinations thereof). Password managers are about automating all that.
Re:Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
by ben_w on Sunday May 20, 2018 @02:21PM
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It is multi device though. Sure it’s Apple only, but it’s all my Apple devices, macOS and iOS (I don’t have a watch or a TV), not just wherever the password was created.
Re:Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
by pvg on Sunday May 20, 2018 @02:31PM
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It's not. Keychain is not synced across devices. iCloud keychain, a separate service, can sync parts of keychain.
iCloud keychain is a perfectly reasonable (and as a UI, probably better than anything else) password manager iff you use Safari as your main browser and all your other devices are Apple devices.
Re:Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
by ben_w on Sunday May 20, 2018 @05:12PM
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OK, that’s something I didn’t know, and I may be missing something from such a silly name overlap. However, I do have items in Keychain Access.app which are from iCloud. What gives?
Re:Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
by pvg on Sunday May 20, 2018 @05:23PM
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Keychain Access lets you view your local keychain (i.e. your device's secure trust store). If you have iCloud keychain turned on then certain parts of your keychain will be synced across devices so you'll be able to find, say, a web password you generated on your phone on in your Mac's keychain (via Keychain Access and otherwise). The terminology is a bit confusing, that much is true.
If you can live within the constraints of iCloud keychain (the Safari/Apple devices thing, don't need stuff like 'team sharing, etc) it's arguably a better solution than 1Password.
Re:Getting 1Password 7 ready for the Mac App Store
by tajen on Sunday May 20, 2018 @12:01PM
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Ah, I see why it’s useful for me: I use Chrome and Chrome stores passwords per profile. And I have several profiles that must not be shared (private, work-dev, work-sysadmin...), and an OS-wide password manager would be super-prone to mistakes. I also use Firefox for non-Google-approved work (ex: MRA and James Damore), and, same, profiles work super-well.