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Re:New variety in the chip market, and trouble for Intel (2017) by cm2187 on Sunday May 20, 2018 @07:09AM (#17112231)
It’s like saying IBM is in trouble in 1980. Of course it’s not, it’s a very strong company. But...
Re:New variety in the chip market, and trouble for Intel (2017) by melling on Sunday May 20, 2018 @07:58AM (#17112367)
IBM is not the same company it was in the 1980’s. Lou Gerstner laid off 100,000 people in the early 1990’s. Now most of its employees are non-US based:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/28/technology/ibm-india.html

Re:New variety in the chip market, and trouble for Intel (2017) by izacus on Sunday May 20, 2018 @09:02AM (#17112521)
I think that was exactly the point :)
Re:New variety in the chip market, and trouble for Intel (2017) by sametmax on Sunday May 20, 2018 @07:41AM (#17112319)
IBM is a perfect example. The trouble was really not trouble at all. They felt the tremor, but that's it.
Re:New variety in the chip market, and trouble for Intel (2017) by monocasa on Sunday May 20, 2018 @12:40PM (#17113576)
IBM is a withered husk of it's former self.
Re:New variety in the chip market, and trouble for Intel (2017) by Retric on Sunday May 20, 2018 @02:02PM (#17113991)
Adjusting for inflation IBM is worth more now than it was in 1980 and it's been kicking off a lot of dividends. Calling it a husk is misleading. Sure it failed to keep up with the growing size of the PC market, but that's a long way from failure.
Re:New variety in the chip market, and trouble for Intel (2017) by cm2187 on Sunday May 20, 2018 @02:41PM (#17114157)
The pie has become gigantic but their share of the pie has reduced to pretty much zero% from close to 100%.
Re:New variety in the chip market, and trouble for Intel (2017) by Retric on Sunday May 20, 2018 @04:36PM (#17114613)
They never got close to 100% and they still make ~1/4 what google does so that's far from nothing.
Re:New variety in the chip market, and trouble for Intel (2017) by monocasa on Sunday May 20, 2018 @02:56PM (#17114245)
I've heard on the grapevine that they've been selling off real estate and other capital to stay in the black.
Re:New variety in the chip market, and trouble for Intel (2017) by Retric on Sunday May 20, 2018 @04:30PM (#17114597)
I don't see how that's generating 10+ billion per year in profits. Their P/E is 12 and they are worth ~130 billion. It would be one thing if they where nominally profitable, but that's a lot of money.
Re:New variety in the chip market, and trouble for Intel (2017) by slededit on Monday May 21, 2018 @03:15PM (#17120955)
If you stop R&D and coast you can have outside profits for a while until your share erodes completely.
Re:New variety in the chip market, and trouble for Intel (2017) by Retric on Monday May 21, 2018 @03:52PM (#17121270)
I don't think IBM has positive ROI for their R&D costs. They are mostly just a consulting shop so cutting R&D is probably a long term net gain.