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Re:GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU by kingofhdds on Friday May 18, 2018 @05:02AM (#17099813)
And "large scale" means how many records in DB? How many users? Or records per day?
Re:GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU by Angostura on Friday May 18, 2018 @07:23AM (#17100499)
Why have you isolated one element from a multiple element sentence:

If

* core activities * require * large scale * regular * systematic

If you tick all those other boxes, but are concerned that your processing may be teetering on the boundary of 'large scale', I would be cautious and assume your liable.

Re:GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU by kingofhdds on Friday May 18, 2018 @08:05AM (#17100724)
All repeatable processes are systematic, almost the whole IT goes into the category. And "core" is undefined too.

I agree that it is safer to imply you're liable.

Re:GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU by peteretep on Friday May 18, 2018 @05:41AM (#17100021)
These are excellent questions that you will have to have shown you've considered if you get audited. If there's disagreement with the regulator, you'll come together to resolve it, and then may need to appoint one.
Re:GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU by kingofhdds on Friday May 18, 2018 @05:55AM (#17100105)
Well, so it's undefined, at least until practice of legal application establishes. Undefined means risk, and stopping serving EU is a meaningful mitigation, if your profits don't compensate you for all the hassle. Where's "overreaction“ then?
Re:GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU by pgeorgi on Friday May 18, 2018 @05:23AM (#17099926)
Monal is an XMPP client running on user's iOS devices. Is that person even running an XMPP server for those users?
Re:GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU by caffeine5150 on Friday May 18, 2018 @10:21AM (#17101663)
A UK privacy attorney I know considered 20k records (individuals) to be large scale. I haven't seen much helpful guidance. The WP29 guidance I've read only gives examples at the very extremes of large and small so not too helpful. Practical guidelines will evolve over time.
Re:GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU by scotty79 on Friday May 18, 2018 @05:49AM (#17100069)
I guess if you have to ask that question you are not a large scale.
Re:GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU by kingofhdds on Friday May 18, 2018 @05:57AM (#17100114)
I don't think an argument of such kind would stand in your communication with regulators, or (especially) in courts.
Re:GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU by scotty79 on Friday May 18, 2018 @09:58AM (#17101472)
This is "what will you do if the lightning strikes you" thinking. Only about less probable things.
Re:GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU by kingofhdds on Friday May 18, 2018 @05:51PM (#17105239)
I'm not sure I understand your point. Do you mean “they won't catch you"?
Re:GDPR: Removing Monal from the EU by scotty79 on Friday May 18, 2018 @06:10PM (#17105327)
They won't even manage to precisely decide what actually means 'large' let alone if it applies to you specifically, before you die of old age.

The above statement will apply to everybody or nearly everybody (still not you).