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Re:Chinese mass-indoctrination camps evoke Cultural Revolution by teekert on Thursday May 17, 2018 @12:11PM (#17092584)
"Free people" as in, attention high-jacked, rent paying, sugar'd up, Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaires represented by purchasable politicians? What is freedom today anyway? We don't work for a company anymore, we work for share holders. We don't pay eachother for housing anymore, we pay banks. We don't choose what we eat anymore, we are seduced. We don't spend our time anymore, companies sell our time and attention for us.

At the very least freedom should come with "being well informed", however we are informed by commercials nowadays. Is this freedom?

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Re:Chinese mass-indoctrination camps evoke Cultural Revolution by fwn on Thursday May 17, 2018 @12:17PM (#17092667)
Deconstructing freedom might be a fun exercise, it is, however, completely unrelated if it comes to criticising dystopian state oppression. (Which the linked article is about.)

Torture & forced reeducation camps are wrong regardless of some other wrongness somewhere else.

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Re:Chinese mass-indoctrination camps evoke Cultural Revolution by teekert on Thursday May 17, 2018 @12:19PM (#17092692)
This I agree with. I'm just saying that the free choices of people in the western world are probably not as free as they could be. Is utopia a more regulated place? This feels like a dirty proposition to my capitalist (minus the tumors it has been growing lately) mind. But the seeds of doubt have been placed...
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Re:Chinese mass-indoctrination camps evoke Cultural Revolution by simonh on Thursday May 17, 2018 @04:07PM (#17095104)
Fair enough, but what’s stopping you from doing something about it? I mean except for other individual free citizens generally not happening to agree with you.
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Re:Chinese mass-indoctrination camps evoke Cultural Revolution by teekert on Friday May 18, 2018 @03:46AM (#17099423)
To be honest I just like posting hard statements that I think are logical conclusions but would like to see proven false with even better arguments :)
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Re:Chinese mass-indoctrination camps evoke Cultural Revolution by simonh on Saturday May 19, 2018 @08:57AM (#17107707)
The thing is, it’s coming across as implicit support for an oppressive totalitarian regime.
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Re:Chinese mass-indoctrination camps evoke Cultural Revolution by simonh on Thursday May 17, 2018 @04:05PM (#17095076)
So when exactly were the olden days you’re hardening back to that were so much better?
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