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Re:John Carmack: My Steve Jobs Stories by HugoDaniel on Monday May 14, 2018 @05:07PM (#17069461)
Being successful does not excuse being a jerk and people behaviours/relationships are not to be mistaken with statistical behaviours/relationships (like correlation and causation).

Don't defend him while trying to separate the fact that he was the king of jerks because you have spent big money on his products. Does not work that way. Sorry.

"One time, my wife, then fiancée, and I were meeting with Steve at Apple, and he wanted me to do a keynote that happened to be scheduled on the same day as our wedding. With a big smile and full of charm, he suggested that we postpone it. We declined, but he kept pressing. Eventually my wife countered with a suggestion that if he really wanted “her” John so much, he should loan John Lassiter to her media company for a day of consulting. Steve went from full charm to ice cold really damn quick. "

Re:John Carmack: My Steve Jobs Stories by maxsavin on Monday May 14, 2018 @06:15PM (#17069937)
You have to consider his background when you say this. He is super amazing as is, and 10x more compared to how he started.

> Don't defend him while trying to separate the fact that he was the king of jerks because you have spent big money on his products. Does not work that way. Sorry.

You sound like a jerk.

Re:John Carmack: My Steve Jobs Stories by HugoDaniel on Monday May 14, 2018 @06:24PM (#17069986)
Does it help if I show you how successful I am ?
Re:John Carmack: My Steve Jobs Stories by on_and_off on Monday May 14, 2018 @06:35PM (#17070043)
You are my hero :-)

Sorry, not very productive, but you made me smile

Re:John Carmack: My Steve Jobs Stories by jsight on Monday May 14, 2018 @08:37PM (#17070679)
TBH, yes. Being direct and abrasive is much easier to handle when it is also combined with usually being right (and a willingness to change when not right).
Re:John Carmack: My Steve Jobs Stories by HugoDaniel on Tuesday May 15, 2018 @03:04AM (#17072174)
If I put all my charm on and ask you to postpone your wedding to work for me without giving you anything in return I am not being direct and abrasive. To be clear, steve jobs was not direct and abrasive. He was a jerk.

Or a SOB if you prefer.

Re:John Carmack: My Steve Jobs Stories by tty7 on Monday May 14, 2018 @06:36PM (#17070046)
success is irrelevant :P
Re:John Carmack: My Steve Jobs Stories by russh on Monday May 14, 2018 @06:44PM (#17070092)
But only to the successful.
Re:John Carmack: My Steve Jobs Stories by busterarm on Monday May 14, 2018 @08:56PM (#17070754)
It's like the asshole boss version of 'Sexual Harassment and You'[0].

    - Be Charismatic
    - Be Successful
    - Don't Be Unsuccessful
[0]: https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/tv-funhouse-se...