They aren’t buying it for Siri

The same reason people buy Coach bags etc... status and brand.

Why do people keep repeating this tired and offensive myth? I bought my iphone for the hardware and software capabilities that I judged to be the best for my use cases. And I am not the only one that actually had a non-trite reason, I am sure.

Sure, you did (there are always outliers in every group), but for every one of you there are dozens who are buying it as a status symbol.

Why do you think iPhone has become a status symbol? I would guess it's partially because Android has had so many issues with fake apps and malware in the Google Play Store that Android has become somewhat laughable. Also, other than the antenna, every iPhone is essentially the exact same whether you buy it from AT&T or Verison or the Apple Store etc. There is no shitty Samsung or LG skin on the UI and no bloatware (other than maybe a single app preinstalled from your carrier such as the AT&T app which you can can easily uninstall in a matter of seconds). It integrates with other Apple products without needing much if any configuration.

Also, tons of people choose certain companies to buy from because of their status and reputation. That's how most industries work. Some people only buy American made cars, or only Chevy or only Honda. There's nothing wrong with brand loyalty especially when the brand is consistently delivering quality products to it's customers. iPhone isn't an arbitrary status symbol. Apple put years and years of effort into building up the reputation they have.

there are? what's the evidence for that other than a subjective impression of Apple iphone's inferiority and a lack of imagination as to other people's motivations?

Is this a myth? What does apple have better than android in 2018?

As far as what Apple iphone does better? Privacy, os updates, integration with my Mac, App store apps, and a bunch of other things. But that all is completely besides the point. Even if there were nothing at all iPhones do better, it's a bit absurd to go from 'well apple is not better than android' to 'people therefore only buy apple because they are shallow'

I just saw someone on HN saying how amazing Google Photos was because of its learning in the cloud.

Having not used Photos on macOS in years beyond ensuring it actually imported my photos, I opened it up and was surprised at the level of analysis it had. It made an album for each city I visited in Mexico. "Puerto Vallarta 2017" and such. Even had a "Furry Friends in Mexico" album that was all the furred beasts I met along the way.

Really well done, and all done locally on my computer.

This is the sort of thing I have no problem voting for with my dollars.

Has it been a while since you used an alternative?

All of those seem like expected features in any OS/phone.

What other phone does this?

Accessibility. I can pick up any Apple device created in the last 9 years and be guaranteed that as a totally blind person I can use it. Phone, iPad, Watch, whatever. Just works. This is very very far from being the case in Android land.

Their face unlock is better than anything I saw on my Pixel or my Windows Hello laptop. To the point of being usable and preferred over fingerprints instead of a pointless extra.

I switched back because of that + Google Assistant's unwillingness to work without Google tracking my location history constantly (assuming that the "off" switch there even actually stops them).

Standby battery life. I switched because I got tired of pulling out my android phone and seeing it has lost an appreciable amount of battery in the last 45 mins just sitting in my pocket. When I"m not using my iphone the battery drain is minimal.

Everyone who likes iPhones owns one, so that removes status.

Personal anecdote, I dislike Apple computers, but I like their phones. So I am at least one person who doesn't buy them for brand.

This notion is outdated.

Can you explain what is good about their phones?

Things that drive me crazy-

>No widgets

>constant reminders to sign-in

>constant reminders to update

>no double tap/settings seem harder to find

>Finger print scanner sucks so bad.

>Little annoyances like the animations to change screen take 0.5 seconds too long.

I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be enjoying on my iphone.

> No widgets

Flick to the left from the homescreen or from the notification screen. They have them.

> constant reminders to sign-in

After an update, sure, but TouchID got rid of most of these.

> constant reminders to update

iPhones actually get updated. Reminding you to install them is good practice.

> no double tap/settings seem harder to find

Please explain this gesture.

> Finger print scanner sucks so bad.

You probably (like me) only scanned part of your fingerprint.

> Little annoyances like the animations to change screen take 0.5 seconds too long.

Dig into the accessibility settings. They let you change a lot more than you think you should be able to.

>No widgets Widgets suck and slow down android. Apple stores them in a swipe so they dont refresh constantly. >constant reminders to sign-in Never had this problem >constant reminders to update Constant? You mean, they tell you when they have an update. >no double tap/settings seem harder to find Because it's force touch. >Finger print scanner sucks so bad. Laughable as Apple makes the best one on the market, you should just move your finger more or enter it twice. >Little annoyances like the animations to change screen take 0.5 seconds too long. This is 100% why I hate Android, weird lag in every device. >I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be enjoying on my iphone Maybe that Apple isn't selling your privacy for money.

Please spare us from Android vs iPhone fanboi wars on HN.

> Finger print scanner sucks so bad.

This is demonstrably false. iPhone's second-gen Touch ID sensor is one of, if not the best in the business. It's fast and ridiculously accurate, and is the reason people were disappointed in Face ID when it was first released.

I'm sure there's some people that buy an iPhone for status (gotta have those blue iMessage bubbles), but I don't think it's any kind of majority. I've had an iPhone for the last 5 years or so because I've found there's better quality apps in the app store, and in the past their camera was way better than any other mainstream smartphones (not so much today though. The camera on the Pixel 2 looks way better IMO).

Also, Siri is a joke. If your priority in a smartphone is to make use of it's virtual assistant, then an iPhone is not for you.