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Re:Facebook now denying access unless EU users opt-in to tra... by mpweiher on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @12:43PM (#17031329)
Huh? When I get on a train in Germany, I open the door and step inside. The train station is usually even simpler.
Re:Facebook now denying access unless EU users opt-in to tra... by icebraining on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @01:10PM (#17031597)
Same at least in Portugal, Spain, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg and France.
Re:Facebook now denying access unless EU users opt-in to tra... by Tharkun on Thursday May 10, 2018 @04:25AM (#17037183)
I should have been more clear in my comment, I was referring to international high speed trains. Including mandatory registration of passengers and keeping the data for X years. Presumably these passenger manifests are also exchanged with other countries.

But even regional services include oodles of cameras, including on the trains. There's tracking of passengers and their destination. There are heavily armed guards/police/soldiers in many European train stations.

Re:Facebook now denying access unless EU users opt-in to tra... by mpweiher on Thursday May 10, 2018 @07:51AM (#17038037)
Hmmm...those trains I step onto are (a) typically high speed and (b) quite often "international", though the concept really doesn't make much sense in the Schengen Area.

Are you talking about the Eurostar service from London (I remember the Waterloo station, though I hear it has moved to St. Pancras). That's the only one I can think of that fits your description.

The Thalys from Cologne to Paris via Belgium is/was also simple walk on walk off with normal train stations.

Re:Facebook now denying access unless EU users opt-in to tra... by Tharkun on Friday May 11, 2018 @04:59AM (#17045852)
The Thalys has security theatre with luggage x-ray in several locations, including Paris and Antwerp. It's currently not active 24/7, but it will be soon.
Re:Facebook now denying access unless EU users opt-in to tra... by icebraining on Thursday May 10, 2018 @08:35AM (#17038244)
On the TGV from Luxembourg to France, there were no barriers. And nobody ever asked me for my ID; in one of the legs, they didn't even check our tickets.

I don't doubt they keep those manifests, but I've found very little actual control.

Brussels does have troops going around, which is unsettling, but I never saw them inside the actual station, nor stopping people entering it, even after that poor devil immolated himself last year.

Re:Facebook now denying access unless EU users opt-in to tra... by the-dude on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @02:36PM (#17032544)
Not true anymore in every NL station : we have entrance gates, no ticket, no entry to the boarding area.
Re:Facebook now denying access unless EU users opt-in to tra... by icebraining on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @02:44PM (#17032630)
Curious. Is that very recent? I was in Amsterdam last year and while I remember the ticket validators, I don't remember them being mandatory; I think we've even passed them to cross the station to the other side, to catch the ferry.
Re:Facebook now denying access unless EU users opt-in to tra... by the-dude on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @02:55PM (#17032741)
It is recent, not everywhere and loosely enforced. But the intent is there.

The situation in A'dam : I guess it is impractical and unwanted to close the corridor from the one end to the other.

Re:Facebook now denying access unless EU users opt-in to tra... by mercer on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @03:24PM (#17033030)
In Utrecht they recently closed the main corridor from one end of the station to the other (which, unlike the Amsterdam station, also splits the city in half).

Fortunately, they left a relatively narrow outside corridor open. Still feels odd to have to check in and out again when you're coming from or to some of the main busses, or take a detour.