Modern MacBooks have absolutely terrible keyboards. So unless you use it like an iPad, you'd be better off with a ThinkPad.

I want to agree with you, I want a Linux daily driver with the quality I am used to from the Mac. But I guess we’re just going to have to agree to disagree on the new mac keyboard being a dealbreaker.

> The whole thing feels stuck a decade ago.

Says the macOS user... did you even get a newer version of bash yet? I heard even Debian stable has a newer bash version than macOS.

`brew install bash`

Software is trivial to upgrade and that's a very silly comparison to make.

Actually it is FOSS saving FOSS developers using OS X as a Linux replacement for doing Linux development.

OS X and iOS developers are pretty fine with the OS tooling.

> OS X and iOS developers are pretty fine with the OS tooling.

That's because they are "fine" with anything Apple does, I guess removing ports wasn't enough for them to see beyond their own stupidity.

OS X developers have to be the dumbest of them all, if Apple tells them to jump off a bridge they probably would too.

They are blind for a brand.

Being an UNIX is irrelevant for Apple related development, it is just a side effect of being based on NeXTSTEP, which also only used POSIX compatibility as an attempt to take business away from SGI and SUN.

If you want UNIX development, without any regard for OS X and iOS, then go sponsor hardware vendors selling Linux and BSD based systems.

> they are nothing but a bunch of immoral fascists.

Yep. The Apple death count must be nearing that of WWII by now surely.

If you cannot see anything immoral in Apple, or if you're unable to see anything immoral/fascist beyond murder and WWII then I'm not sure you're ready to discuss this subject.

I suggest you educate yourself on the matter, because judging by your comment, I can clearly see you're ignorant about the subject.

https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html

Did Lewis Carroll write you?

Bash is hardly relevant for actual Apple developers.

There are no missing features that would prevent developing Swift and Objective-C applications.

Sure, because Swift and Objective-C applications is all that matters. /s

This comment alone proves that Apple developers are a bunch of clueless idiots.

No, we just buy Apple hardware for doing Apple related development, not as a replacement for Linux to do Linux development.

If you want to do that buy hardware from Linux vendors like Dell and System76.

You shouldn't buy from Apple, it's bad for your freedom.

https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/malware-apple.html

On a past life, about 20 years ago, I was a FOSS zealot of the first GNU wave.

Nowadays I use whatever makes business sense.

Yes, because vendor lock-in and all the bad things that comes from Apple makes perfect business sense. /s