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Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by derefr on Monday May 07, 2018 @07:10PM (#17017241)
The TV ecosystem solved this by splitting the screen apart from the set-top/streaming box (and then put them together again in the form of smart TVs, but most people I know just disable the internal smarts and use their own stick anyway.)

Why not just specify a "dashboard control tablet" form-factor, and have an empty spot there, expecting the user to supply their own (and replace it every year or two, as people tend to do with other mobile devices)? It'd be this decade's tape/CD player module.

Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by chaostheory on Monday May 07, 2018 @07:19PM (#17017300)
This has already been solved well by both Google and Apple.

https://www.android.com/auto/

https://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/

This is yet another example of a car company unable to realize that they just don't make good car infotainment dashboards. This will just lead to further fragmentation of the Android ecosystem.

Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by partiallypro on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @12:24AM (#17018813)
Maybe a dumb question, but do companies often support -both- AndroidAuto and AppleCar play? Or do they do lock-ins and partnerships...because if they lock you in, it really defeats the purpose.
Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by gsnedders on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @07:36AM (#17020236)
There are very few who support one but not both, BMW most prominently (CarPlay only).
Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by assblaster on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @08:21AM (#17020403)
Toyota is testing out Carplay but not Android auto in one of their new cars, citing lack of security.

Which sounds more like they got a better deal from Apple.

Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by balls187 on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @02:38AM (#17019259)
my 2016 VW Golf supports Carplay, AndroidAuto and a 3rd solution (like Miracast but for autos).
Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by danieldk on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @07:12AM (#17020122)
Our Skoda Fabia does both.
Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by chaostheory on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @03:34AM (#17019468)
Yes Chevys do
Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by nathantotten on Monday May 07, 2018 @07:49PM (#17017480)
Have you used carplay? It is awful. Takes 30 seconds to start. Crashes frequently, unresponsive often.

I don’t necessarily blame apple for this, but they clearly didn’t put strict enough requirements on the hardware that runs CarPlay.

Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by majormajor on Monday May 07, 2018 @08:15PM (#17017659)
My experience is the same. For day to day, bluetooth phone<->car connection beats Carplay or Android Auto. Wireless autoconnect is key, should've been in the V1 of those standards.

I never bother with Carplay for less than a 1 hour trip.

Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by ancorevard on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @12:07AM (#17018744)
CarPlay connects wirelessly through both Bluetooth and WiFi. I’m enjoying it a lot. Never need to pull my phone out my pocket.
Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by nathantotten on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @08:52AM (#17020533)
That’s awesome. I didn’t know wireless was supported. Clearly some car manufacturers have done better jobs with the integration/hardware than others.
Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by robin_reala on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @02:32AM (#17019234)
It needs WiFi for a wireless connection, Bluetooth doesn’t have enough bandwidth.
Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by danieldk on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @07:15AM (#17020133)
We use CarPlay all the time, it works almost instantaneously after plugging the phone and it is always responsive. The primary beef that we have with it is that you cannot use Google Maps. Though Apple Maps is definitely many times better than the built-in navigation system.

As you say, it is probably a problem with some hardware.

Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by nathantotten on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @08:49AM (#17020520)
It seems based on other comments that it varies wildly by manufacturer. Several others in here mentioned issues with the same vehicle I have. Really unfortunate, it’s clearly better than the built in software. Maybe there is hope that Volvo will issue an update that improves stability.
Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by msh on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @12:45AM (#17018878)
Eh, it’s instant on in my car (a Citroen) but I suspect they start booting the electronics when I unlock the car. In the 3 months I have had the car it have never crashed but twice CarPlay refused to find the phone and required a reboot of the phone.
Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by xirdstl on Monday May 07, 2018 @10:49PM (#17018446)
Aside from the startup time, I don’t have any of those problems. I love CarPlay and would not consider buying a car without it
Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by chaostheory on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @03:36AM (#17019474)
You need a better, stronger lightning cable for your car. Apple OEM cables can’t take the wear and tear in a car. As long as my lightning cable is good, so is CarPlay. You can also go the wireless route as an alternative
Re:Volvo to Use Google Assistant, Play Store and Maps in Nex... by nathantotten on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @08:53AM (#17020540)
Interesting. I am using Apple branded cables. Any specific recommendations on what works well?