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Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by boomboomsubban on Monday May 07, 2018 @05:44PM (#17016715)
>Where does YouTube censoring all videos with gun-assembly instructions fit into a culture where gun ownership is legally a human right?

It fits as part of an international website including many countries that don't see things that way. That's the conundrum the post you're replying to is addressing.

Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by 15155 on Monday May 07, 2018 @06:01PM (#17016840)
Many dictatorial regimes don't find many rights that we enjoy in the United States as legitimate or legal.

Should we, in the United States of America, censor content for our own just because they don't like it?

Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by boomboomsubban on Monday May 07, 2018 @09:46PM (#17018181)
"We" aren't doing anything, YouTube faces a somewhat difficult problem. If they find this policy to be more profitable, should they change it just because you don't like it?
Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by rickycook on Monday May 07, 2018 @06:18PM (#17016931)
i think the word we are looking for is “majority”. if the majority of the world thinks that gun ownership like the US has is dangerous (for those of you insulated from said rest of the world, this is the case), and the appropriate way to deal with it is to sensor the content, then you’re damn right a global site that provides that content should sensor it! i honestly don’t give a damn about your constitution; it doesn’t protect the majority of people in the world
Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by tzahola on Monday May 07, 2018 @06:47PM (#17017102)
The “majority of the world” neither supports same-sex marriage. I suppose you’d be fine with removing that kind of content from YouTube as well, right?
Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by gnarbarian on Monday May 07, 2018 @06:58PM (#17017157)
Fear of the "Tyranny of the majority" was a specific reason the US adopted the Bill of Rights.
Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by stale2002 on Monday May 07, 2018 @06:41PM (#17017070)
A majority of people can believe a lot of things.

For example, the majority of people in Saudi Arabia believe that gay people should be stoned to death.

I personally don't give any legitimatecy to majoritarianism. There are things that are right and things that are wrong, and this doesn't change because a majority of people don't think the same way.

Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by sheepmullet on Monday May 07, 2018 @06:24PM (#17016966)
So it sounds like a reasonable middle ground is to ban companies who are attacking fundamental American freedoms from getting any government contracts.

E.g. A ban on google cloud from any government tenders.

It's also reasonable to start enforcing our monopoly laws.

Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by s2g on Monday May 07, 2018 @06:37PM (#17017045)
> It's also reasonable to start enforcing our monopoly laws.

oh but they aren't "hurting consumers.

Google learned from Microsoft. They pay their bribes.

and you don't have a right to put up videos on youtube.

Re:Tech watchdogs call on Facebook, Google for transparency ... by sheepmullet on Monday May 07, 2018 @06:47PM (#17017104)
> oh but they aren't "hurting consumers.

Of course they are. And I bet a lot of judges would rule against them under our existing laws.

Even just what we could find in discovery would almost surely provide enough information to get the EU with its stronger monopoly laws to make a case.

> and you don't have a right to put up videos on youtube.

Of course - but we can ensure YouTube is broken off from Google and has to compete in the free market.