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Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by tathougies on Monday May 07, 2018 @12:35PM (#17014111)
What exactly is wrong with fighting for social justice? If you’re going to resort to name calling at least choose a label that’s actually bad
Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by UnpossibleJim on Monday May 07, 2018 @12:47PM (#17014222)
The problem with it, is that it lacks any and all due process. It's the same process that leads to lynch mobs and witch hunts. Its other names are mob rule, mob justice and vigilantism.
Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by tathougies on Monday May 07, 2018 @03:05PM (#17015489)
I mean... no one has a right to due process in media and public perception, only in government dealings.

Only a repressive, fascist society would attempt to enforce a guarantee of 'due process' in public perception. I hope that day never comes in America, but given how liberally some people seem to take protection of speech and due process, I worry we may be closer now than ever.

Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by iron0013 on Monday May 07, 2018 @02:19PM (#17015050)
Wasn't aware that "SJWs" were hanging people from trees and burning them at the stake, thanks for the information
Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by UnpossibleJim on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @11:09PM (#17027177)
Antifa... I think that's how it's spelled, anyways. Short for Anti-Fascist. A radical extension of the "SJW" logic, if you will. Any ideology, taken to the extreme, is ridiculous.
Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by iron0013 on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @12:55PM (#17031426)
I wasn't aware that antifa was hanging people from trees and burning them at the stake. I myself am anti-fascist, and most people I know are also against fascism--aren't you?

However, anyone can easily find many, many, many examples of right-wing extremists in the United States hanging, burning, and committing other atrocities. Hm, weird, it's almost as if both sides are not equivalent, like one is much worse than the other...

Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by UnpossibleJim on Thursday May 10, 2018 @04:46PM (#17042811)
Being purposefully obtuse is, as always, charming. I'm sure you liven up any debate and bring new information to light. Thanks so much for helping me see that I was wasting my time with this conversation..... I guess you win?
Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by iron0013 on Friday May 11, 2018 @11:07AM (#17047803)
Please don't troll and name-call, we all come to this forum for open and productive debate.
Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by austincheney on Monday May 07, 2018 @01:08PM (#17014402)
Could you please be more specific as to your offense? I am not sure of the nature of your criticism.
Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by iron0013 on Monday May 07, 2018 @02:16PM (#17015020)
What you just said does not make sense. Please rephrase and try again.
Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by austincheney on Monday May 07, 2018 @03:20PM (#17015618)
That is basically what I said.
Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by iron0013 on Wednesday May 09, 2018 @01:07PM (#17031558)
What you just said does not make sense. Please rephrase and try again.
Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by tathougies on Monday May 07, 2018 @03:26PM (#17015680)
Calling someone a 'social justice warrior' in order to (presumably) cause insult is like calling someone 'stunningly gorgeous' to offend them.
Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by austincheney on Monday May 07, 2018 @03:43PM (#17015833)
I phrased it in such a way to specifically avoid a statement of attack by calling it my personal feeling and further more I did not direct that description at any person but in response to the written article. In this regard I am thinking it is the label that people find offensive rather than the context to which that label is used.

Please correct me if I am wrong here. If every use of the term social justice warrior is immediately offensive then I won't use it again.

Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by tathougies on Tuesday May 08, 2018 @01:56PM (#17023029)
> If every use of the term social justice warrior is immediately offensive then I won't use it again.

It's not offensive at all.

> I phrased it in such a way to specifically avoid a statement of attack by calling it my personal feeling and further more I did not direct that description at any person but in response to the written article.

Ah, I see. you meant it as a compliment! In that case, good on you! It is a wonderful thing when someone stands up to injustice, and I'm glad you see that in the author of this article.

Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by rhcom2 on Monday May 07, 2018 @08:58PM (#17017915)
It's a pejorative.

> Social justice warrior (commonly abbreviated SJW) is a pejorative term for an individual who promotes socially progressive views, including feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism,[1][2] as well as identity politics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice_warrior

Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by austincheney on Monday May 07, 2018 @09:19PM (#17018054)
Pejorative is exactly what most people think when somebody introduces personal politics into technology, education, or business. Appropriate venues would be politics and law. People have lost their jobs for this.

There is nothing wrong with stating an opinion, but everything to its appropriate context.

Re:MIT Should Not Be Supporting the Saud Monarchy by rhcom2 on Monday May 07, 2018 @11:33PM (#17018612)
I don't know what you're talking about. No one is criticizing you for stating an opinion, but for using a pejorative. You asked if it was offensive, I told you.