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Re:The Hobo Ethical Code of 1889 by mlevental on Friday May 04, 2018 @10:01AM (#16994659)
i think you and i have a very different understandings of the word "voluntary"
Re:The Hobo Ethical Code of 1889 by xbkingx on Friday May 04, 2018 @11:09AM (#16995117)
One that ignores the entirety of human psychology, probability, and what we understand about motivation, reward, and healthy socialization.

Technically you could successfully perform your own neurosurgery at home with a spoon and a dull butter knife...

Re:The Hobo Ethical Code of 1889 by mieseratte on Friday May 04, 2018 @11:27AM (#16995286)
> Technically you could successfully perform your own neurosurgery at home with a spoon and a dull butter knife...

I was not implying that in the least, that's what you chose to read into it.

> One that ignores the entirety of human psychology, probability, and what we understand about motivation, reward, and healthy socialization.

Like anyone involved in software, you're surely an expert in all of these topics and thus qualified to make this claim without backing it up.

One can voluntary, that is choose, to opt-out of any number of those situations. Some may be more important or costly than others.

Re:The Hobo Ethical Code of 1889 by xbkingx on Sunday May 06, 2018 @06:50PM (#17009083)
> Like anyone involved in software, you're surely an expert in all of these topics and thus qualified to make this claim without backing it up.

PhD in neuroscience, undergrad research on reward and behavior. So, yes, yes I am qualified. You are 100% wrong on all fronts.

Re:The Hobo Ethical Code of 1889 by mieseratte on Friday May 04, 2018 @10:52AM (#16994975)
You have free will. You can opt-out of "the system" but it will be painful given your desires and lifestyle. So, yes, these things are wholly voluntary.

If you want to live a modern, "easy" lifestyle then some of these things start to look rather coercive.